chunky Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 4 hours ago, enotian said: Bjarne Pedersen had 3 wins for Poole and added 1 more with Peterborough last season. Dammit! I kept thinking of him, but I forgot last year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 Jason Doyle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted February 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 1 minute ago, salty said: Jason Doyle? And that's all ten!!! Doyle gained one title with Poole and 3 with Swindon. Anyone care to guess who has the most wooden spoons??? There is a rider who has been in teams who finished bottom of the table on six occasions... Similarly someone has six silver medals for finishing runner up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 18 hours ago, chunky said: Dammit! I kept thinking of him, but I forgot last year! That is the same as me lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted February 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) Chris Harris 5 Coventry 2005 2007 2010 Peterborough 2021 Poole 2018 Chris Holder 5 Poole 2008 2011 2013 2014 2015 Dave Watt 5 Poole 2003 2004 2008 2011 2015 Krzysztof Kasprzak 4 Coventry 2010 Poole 2003 2004 2008 Scott Nicholls 4 Coventry 2005 2007 Ipswich 1998 Peterborough 2021 Peter Karlsson 4 Wolverhampton 1996 2002 2009 2016 Simon Wigg 4 Cradley Heath 1983 Oxford 1985 1986 1989 Bjarne Pedersen 4 Peterborough 2021 Poole 2003 2004 2008 Ivan Mauger 4 Belle Vue 1970 1971 1972 Exeter 1974 Jason Doyle 4 Poole 2011 Swindon 2012 2017 2019 3 Marvyn Cox, Soren Sjosten, Rory Schlein, Frank Shuter, Magnus Zetterstrom, Hans Andersen, Peter Collins, Hans Nielsen, Daniel Davidsson, Andy Grahame, Maciej Janowski, Jan Andersson, Martin Dugard, Tommy Knudsen, Mick Bell, Tommy Roper, Chris Pusey, Joe Screen, Ryan Sullivan, Josh Grajczonek, Darcy Ward, Billy Sanders, Adam Skornicki, Kyle Newman, Tony Rickardsson, Jeremy Doncaster, Ken Eyre, Troy Butler 2 Phil Collins, Mitch Shirra, Alan Wilkinson, Tai Woffinden, Ales Dryml, Mikael Karlsson, Alf Busk, Paul Hurry, Craig Boyce, Bernie Leigh, Dave Hemus, Tomas H Jonasson, Dave Mullett, Martin Ashby, David Bellego, Mike Lanham, David Clarke, Nick Morris, David Howe, Peter Kildemand, Dawid Lampart, Rick Miller, Dean Barker, Alan Grahame, Eric Broadbelt, Tobiasz Musielak, Erik Gundersen, Tony Davey, Frederik Lindgren, Zach Wajtknecht, Gary Guglielmi, Martin Smolinski, Adam Ellis, Mike Hiftle, Andy Hackett, Mike Sampson, Jason Crump, Morten Risager, Jason Lyons, Nicolai Klindt, Jesper Jensen, Per Jonsson, Jiri Stancl, Peter Ravn, John Jorgensen, Przemyslaw Pawlicki, John Louis, Ronnie Correy, Joonas Kylmakorpi, Billy Janniro, Kai Niemi, Steve Johnston, Karol Zabik, Ted Howgego, Kelvin Tatum, Todd Wiltshire, Troy Batchelor, Alan Molyneux, Antonio Lindback, Trevor Jones, Kyle Howarth, Ulrich Ostergaard, Armando Castagna, Lukas Dryml, Leigh Adams, Ole Olsen 1 Paul Starke, Ted Ede, Roger Hill, Filip Sitera, Dave Mortiboys, Andreas Jonsson, Phil Morris, Frank Smith, Simon Cross, Freddie Eriksson, Tony Primmer, Frede Schott, Nigel Flatman, Frederik Jakobsen, Ben Hopwood, Bobby Ott, Richard Hall, Garry Stead, Savalas Clouting, Chris Harrison, Steve Masters, Gary Havelock, Tomasz Gollob, Geoff Curtis, Wayne Broadhurst, Geoff Mudge, Dave Trownson, Gordon Guasco, Oliver Allen, Gordon Kennett, Per Sorensen, Graham Jones, Peter Scully, Greg Hancock, Ray Morton, Greg Kentwell, Richie Worrall, Andrew Appleton, Bent Rasmussen, Bobby Schwartz, Scott Swain, Hynek Stichauer, Stefan Andersson, Ian Clark, Steve Weatherley, Chris Julian, Dennis Andersson, Jack Millen, Tony Clarke, Jacob Thorssell, Eric Boocock, James Grieves, Mikkel B Jensen, James Shanes, Neville Tatum, Jan Andersen, Nigel Boocock, Andy Hines, Norman Hunter, Jan O Pedersen, Andre Compton, Chris Kerr, Paul Whittaker, Andy Phillips, Pete Smith, Chris Louis, Dave Younghusband, Jens Rasmussen, Petri Kokko, Andy Reid, Bruce Cribb, Chris Morton, Reg Trott, Jim McMillan, Richard May, Chris Neath, Bruce Penhall, George Stancl, Ron Mountford, Antonin Kasper, Sam Ermolenko, John Cook, Bert Kingston, John Davis, Shawn Moran, Bradley Wilson-Dean, David Shields, Christian Hefenbrock, Stefan Ekberg, John McNeil, Steve Schofield, Jon Armstrong, Sverre Harrfeldt, Jon Surman, Ted Laessing, Claus Vissing, Dennis Gavros, Jorgen Johansson, Bob Jameson, Josh Auty, Tony Lomas, Antonin Svab, Trevor Geer, Josh Larsen, Eric Boothroyd, Justin Elkins, Carl Stonehewer, Kacper Gomolski, Dave Kennett, Kacper Woryna, Nathan Murray, Col Cottrell, Brian Andersen, Brady Kurtz, Niels-Kristian Iversen, Craig Taylor, Nigel De'Ath, Dag Lovaas, Nigel Sadler, Aaron Summers, Odd Fossengen, Kevin Hawkins, Paul Dugard, Kevin Holden, Paul Smith, Kevin Jolly, Paul Tyrer, Kevin Pitts, Dave Willis, Kevin Smart, Pete Munday, Kevin Wolbert, Peter Carr, Klaus Lausch, Benji Compton, Dakota North, David Bargh, Alun Rossiter, Peter Thompson, Daniel Nermark, Brian Leonard, Lance King, Piotr Swiderski, Larry Ross, Rasmus Jensen, Lars Gunnestad, Ray Wickett, Lars Munkedal, Renat Gafurov, Lee Dicken, Richard Knight, Zbigniew Suchecki, Richard Sweetman, Sam Tesar, Rick France, Bobby McNeill, Robin Aspegren, Linus Sundstrom, Rohan Tungate, Louis Carr, David Norris, Danny Warwick, David Ruud, Arnold Haley, Sam Masters, Ashley Morris, Scott Autrey, Malcolm Simmons, Scott Norman, Marek Cieslak, Seb Ulamek, Marian Jirout, Shawn Venables, Mark Bruton, Simon Stead, Mark Loram, David Steen, Anders Michanek, Stefan Danno, Ashley Pullen, David Walsh, Darren Shand, Steve Reinke, Barry Briggs, Steve Waplington, Matej Ferjan, Stewart McDonald, Mateusz Szczepaniak, Carl Baldwin, Maury Robinson, Dawid Stachyra, Max Clegg, Carl Blackbird, Max Schofield, Tom Ridley, Mel Taylor, Tomas Topinka, Michael Palm Toft, Edward Kennett, Ben Barker, Tony Briggs, Mick Hines, Ellis Perks, Micky Dyer, Tony Olsson, Darren Slater, Bob Kilbry, Mike Broadbank, Emil Grondal, Dave Callington, Ty Proctor, Mike Keen, Vaclav Milik, Daver Gooderham, Wayne Carter, Mike Lewthwaite, Charlie Ermolenko, Brent Collyer, Jordan Palin, Les Owen, Lewis Bridger, Ken McKinlay Some great names in there but some big omissions also. No titles for Hamill, Nicki Pedersen, Kenny Carter, Jessup, Ray Wilson?? The man with the most Silver medals is Chris Morton and the most Wooden Spoons is Scott Nicholls. Six a piece. Edited February 20, 2022 by enotian 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 1 hour ago, enotian said: Chris Harris 5 Coventry 2005 2007 2010 Peterborough 2021 Poole 2018 Chris Holder 5 Poole 2008 2011 2013 2014 2015 Dave Watt 5 Poole 2003 2004 2008 2011 2015 Krzysztof Kasprzak 4 Coventry 2010 Poole 2003 2004 2008 Scott Nicholls 4 Coventry 2005 2007 Ipswich 1998 Peterborough 2021 Peter Karlsson 4 Wolverhampton 1996 2002 2009 2016 Simon Wigg 4 Cradley Heath 1983 Oxford 1985 1986 1989 Bjarne Pedersen 4 Peterborough 2021 Poole 2003 2004 2008 Ivan Mauger 4 Belle Vue 1970 1971 1972 Exeter 1974 Jason Doyle 4 Poole 2011 Swindon 2012 2017 2019 3 Marvyn Cox, Soren Sjosten, Rory Schlein, Frank Shuter, Magnus Zetterstrom, Hans Andersen, Peter Collins, Hans Nielsen, Daniel Davidsson, Andy Grahame, Maciej Janowski, Jan Andersson, Martin Dugard, Tommy Knudsen, Mick Bell, Tommy Roper, Chris Pusey, Joe Screen, Ryan Sullivan, Josh Grajczonek, Darcy Ward, Billy Sanders, Adam Skornicki, Kyle Newman, Tony Rickardsson, Jeremy Doncaster, Ken Eyre, Troy Butler 2 Phil Collins, Mitch Shirra, Alan Wilkinson, Tai Woffinden, Ales Dryml, Mikael Karlsson, Alf Busk, Paul Hurry, Craig Boyce, Bernie Leigh, Dave Hemus, Tomas H Jonasson, Dave Mullett, Martin Ashby, David Bellego, Mike Lanham, David Clarke, Nick Morris, David Howe, Peter Kildemand, Dawid Lampart, Rick Miller, Dean Barker, Alan Grahame, Eric Broadbelt, Tobiasz Musielak, Erik Gundersen, Tony Davey, Frederik Lindgren, Zach Wajtknecht, Gary Guglielmi, Martin Smolinski, Adam Ellis, Mike Hiftle, Andy Hackett, Mike Sampson, Jason Crump, Morten Risager, Jason Lyons, Nicolai Klindt, Jesper Jensen, Per Jonsson, Jiri Stancl, Peter Ravn, John Jorgensen, Przemyslaw Pawlicki, John Louis, Ronnie Correy, Joonas Kylmakorpi, Billy Janniro, Kai Niemi, Steve Johnston, Karol Zabik, Ted Howgego, Kelvin Tatum, Todd Wiltshire, Troy Batchelor, Alan Molyneux, Antonio Lindback, Trevor Jones, Kyle Howarth, Ulrich Ostergaard, Armando Castagna, Lukas Dryml, Leigh Adams, Ole Olsen 1 Paul Starke, Ted Ede, Roger Hill, Filip Sitera, Dave Mortiboys, Andreas Jonsson, Phil Morris, Frank Smith, Simon Cross, Freddie Eriksson, Tony Primmer, Frede Schott, Nigel Flatman, Frederik Jakobsen, Ben Hopwood, Bobby Ott, Richard Hall, Garry Stead, Savalas Clouting, Chris Harrison, Steve Masters, Gary Havelock, Tomasz Gollob, Geoff Curtis, Wayne Broadhurst, Geoff Mudge, Dave Trownson, Gordon Guasco, Oliver Allen, Gordon Kennett, Per Sorensen, Graham Jones, Peter Scully, Greg Hancock, Ray Morton, Greg Kentwell, Richie Worrall, Andrew Appleton, Bent Rasmussen, Bobby Schwartz, Scott Swain, Hynek Stichauer, Stefan Andersson, Ian Clark, Steve Weatherley, Chris Julian, Dennis Andersson, Jack Millen, Tony Clarke, Jacob Thorssell, Eric Boocock, James Grieves, Mikkel B Jensen, James Shanes, Neville Tatum, Jan Andersen, Nigel Boocock, Andy Hines, Norman Hunter, Jan O Pedersen, Andre Compton, Chris Kerr, Paul Whittaker, Andy Phillips, Pete Smith, Chris Louis, Dave Younghusband, Jens Rasmussen, Petri Kokko, Andy Reid, Bruce Cribb, Chris Morton, Reg Trott, Jim McMillan, Richard May, Chris Neath, Bruce Penhall, George Stancl, Ron Mountford, Antonin Kasper, Sam Ermolenko, John Cook, Bert Kingston, John Davis, Shawn Moran, Bradley Wilson-Dean, David Shields, Christian Hefenbrock, Stefan Ekberg, John McNeil, Steve Schofield, Jon Armstrong, Sverre Harrfeldt, Jon Surman, Ted Laessing, Claus Vissing, Dennis Gavros, Jorgen Johansson, Bob Jameson, Josh Auty, Tony Lomas, Antonin Svab, Trevor Geer, Josh Larsen, Eric Boothroyd, Justin Elkins, Carl Stonehewer, Kacper Gomolski, Dave Kennett, Kacper Woryna, Nathan Murray, Col Cottrell, Brian Andersen, Brady Kurtz, Niels-Kristian Iversen, Craig Taylor, Nigel De'Ath, Dag Lovaas, Nigel Sadler, Aaron Summers, Odd Fossengen, Kevin Hawkins, Paul Dugard, Kevin Holden, Paul Smith, Kevin Jolly, Paul Tyrer, Kevin Pitts, Dave Willis, Kevin Smart, Pete Munday, Kevin Wolbert, Peter Carr, Klaus Lausch, Benji Compton, Dakota North, David Bargh, Alun Rossiter, Peter Thompson, Daniel Nermark, Brian Leonard, Lance King, Piotr Swiderski, Larry Ross, Rasmus Jensen, Lars Gunnestad, Ray Wickett, Lars Munkedal, Renat Gafurov, Lee Dicken, Richard Knight, Zbigniew Suchecki, Richard Sweetman, Sam Tesar, Rick France, Bobby McNeill, Robin Aspegren, Linus Sundstrom, Rohan Tungate, Louis Carr, David Norris, Danny Warwick, David Ruud, Arnold Haley, Sam Masters, Ashley Morris, Scott Autrey, Malcolm Simmons, Scott Norman, Marek Cieslak, Seb Ulamek, Marian Jirout, Shawn Venables, Mark Bruton, Simon Stead, Mark Loram, David Steen, Anders Michanek, Stefan Danno, Ashley Pullen, David Walsh, Darren Shand, Steve Reinke, Barry Briggs, Steve Waplington, Matej Ferjan, Stewart McDonald, Mateusz Szczepaniak, Carl Baldwin, Maury Robinson, Dawid Stachyra, Max Clegg, Carl Blackbird, Max Schofield, Tom Ridley, Mel Taylor, Tomas Topinka, Michael Palm Toft, Edward Kennett, Ben Barker, Tony Briggs, Mick Hines, Ellis Perks, Micky Dyer, Tony Olsson, Darren Slater, Bob Kilbry, Mike Broadbank, Emil Grondal, Dave Callington, Ty Proctor, Mike Keen, Vaclav Milik, Daver Gooderham, Wayne Carter, Mike Lewthwaite, Charlie Ermolenko, Brent Collyer, Jordan Palin, Les Owen, Lewis Bridger, Ken McKinlay Some great names in there but some big omissions also. No titles for Hamill, Nicki Pedersen, Kenny Carter, Jessup, Ray Wilson?? The man with the most Silver medals is Chris Morton and the most Wooden Spoons is Scott Nicholls. Six a piece. Troy only got the two...1985 and 1989? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 Enjoyed this thread, but..... Arnie Haley is in the list with one? Sheffield never won a title so assuming it refers to his time at Cradley in 1981, but he never rode for them in th BL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 17 hours ago, enotian said: Chris Harris 5 Coventry 2005 2007 2010 Peterborough 2021 Poole 2018 Chris Holder 5 Poole 2008 2011 2013 2014 2015 Dave Watt 5 Poole 2003 2004 2008 2011 2015 Krzysztof Kasprzak 4 Coventry 2010 Poole 2003 2004 2008 Scott Nicholls 4 Coventry 2005 2007 Ipswich 1998 Peterborough 2021 Peter Karlsson 4 Wolverhampton 1996 2002 2009 2016 Simon Wigg 4 Cradley Heath 1983 Oxford 1985 1986 1989 Bjarne Pedersen 4 Peterborough 2021 Poole 2003 2004 2008 Ivan Mauger 4 Belle Vue 1970 1971 1972 Exeter 1974 Jason Doyle 4 Poole 2011 Swindon 2012 2017 2019 3 Marvyn Cox, Soren Sjosten, Rory Schlein, Frank Shuter, Magnus Zetterstrom, Hans Andersen, Peter Collins, Hans Nielsen, Daniel Davidsson, Andy Grahame, Maciej Janowski, Jan Andersson, Martin Dugard, Tommy Knudsen, Mick Bell, Tommy Roper, Chris Pusey, Joe Screen, Ryan Sullivan, Josh Grajczonek, Darcy Ward, Billy Sanders, Adam Skornicki, Kyle Newman, Tony Rickardsson, Jeremy Doncaster, Ken Eyre, Troy Butler 2 Phil Collins, Mitch Shirra, Alan Wilkinson, Tai Woffinden, Ales Dryml, Mikael Karlsson, Alf Busk, Paul Hurry, Craig Boyce, Bernie Leigh, Dave Hemus, Tomas H Jonasson, Dave Mullett, Martin Ashby, David Bellego, Mike Lanham, David Clarke, Nick Morris, David Howe, Peter Kildemand, Dawid Lampart, Rick Miller, Dean Barker, Alan Grahame, Eric Broadbelt, Tobiasz Musielak, Erik Gundersen, Tony Davey, Frederik Lindgren, Zach Wajtknecht, Gary Guglielmi, Martin Smolinski, Adam Ellis, Mike Hiftle, Andy Hackett, Mike Sampson, Jason Crump, Morten Risager, Jason Lyons, Nicolai Klindt, Jesper Jensen, Per Jonsson, Jiri Stancl, Peter Ravn, John Jorgensen, Przemyslaw Pawlicki, John Louis, Ronnie Correy, Joonas Kylmakorpi, Billy Janniro, Kai Niemi, Steve Johnston, Karol Zabik, Ted Howgego, Kelvin Tatum, Todd Wiltshire, Troy Batchelor, Alan Molyneux, Antonio Lindback, Trevor Jones, Kyle Howarth, Ulrich Ostergaard, Armando Castagna, Lukas Dryml, Leigh Adams, Ole Olsen 1 Paul Starke, Ted Ede, Roger Hill, Filip Sitera, Dave Mortiboys, Andreas Jonsson, Phil Morris, Frank Smith, Simon Cross, Freddie Eriksson, Tony Primmer, Frede Schott, Nigel Flatman, Frederik Jakobsen, Ben Hopwood, Bobby Ott, Richard Hall, Garry Stead, Savalas Clouting, Chris Harrison, Steve Masters, Gary Havelock, Tomasz Gollob, Geoff Curtis, Wayne Broadhurst, Geoff Mudge, Dave Trownson, Gordon Guasco, Oliver Allen, Gordon Kennett, Per Sorensen, Graham Jones, Peter Scully, Greg Hancock, Ray Morton, Greg Kentwell, Richie Worrall, Andrew Appleton, Bent Rasmussen, Bobby Schwartz, Scott Swain, Hynek Stichauer, Stefan Andersson, Ian Clark, Steve Weatherley, Chris Julian, Dennis Andersson, Jack Millen, Tony Clarke, Jacob Thorssell, Eric Boocock, James Grieves, Mikkel B Jensen, James Shanes, Neville Tatum, Jan Andersen, Nigel Boocock, Andy Hines, Norman Hunter, Jan O Pedersen, Andre Compton, Chris Kerr, Paul Whittaker, Andy Phillips, Pete Smith, Chris Louis, Dave Younghusband, Jens Rasmussen, Petri Kokko, Andy Reid, Bruce Cribb, Chris Morton, Reg Trott, Jim McMillan, Richard May, Chris Neath, Bruce Penhall, George Stancl, Ron Mountford, Antonin Kasper, Sam Ermolenko, John Cook, Bert Kingston, John Davis, Shawn Moran, Bradley Wilson-Dean, David Shields, Christian Hefenbrock, Stefan Ekberg, John McNeil, Steve Schofield, Jon Armstrong, Sverre Harrfeldt, Jon Surman, Ted Laessing, Claus Vissing, Dennis Gavros, Jorgen Johansson, Bob Jameson, Josh Auty, Tony Lomas, Antonin Svab, Trevor Geer, Josh Larsen, Eric Boothroyd, Justin Elkins, Carl Stonehewer, Kacper Gomolski, Dave Kennett, Kacper Woryna, Nathan Murray, Col Cottrell, Brian Andersen, Brady Kurtz, Niels-Kristian Iversen, Craig Taylor, Nigel De'Ath, Dag Lovaas, Nigel Sadler, Aaron Summers, Odd Fossengen, Kevin Hawkins, Paul Dugard, Kevin Holden, Paul Smith, Kevin Jolly, Paul Tyrer, Kevin Pitts, Dave Willis, Kevin Smart, Pete Munday, Kevin Wolbert, Peter Carr, Klaus Lausch, Benji Compton, Dakota North, David Bargh, Alun Rossiter, Peter Thompson, Daniel Nermark, Brian Leonard, Lance King, Piotr Swiderski, Larry Ross, Rasmus Jensen, Lars Gunnestad, Ray Wickett, Lars Munkedal, Renat Gafurov, Lee Dicken, Richard Knight, Zbigniew Suchecki, Richard Sweetman, Sam Tesar, Rick France, Bobby McNeill, Robin Aspegren, Linus Sundstrom, Rohan Tungate, Louis Carr, David Norris, Danny Warwick, David Ruud, Arnold Haley, Sam Masters, Ashley Morris, Scott Autrey, Malcolm Simmons, Scott Norman, Marek Cieslak, Seb Ulamek, Marian Jirout, Shawn Venables, Mark Bruton, Simon Stead, Mark Loram, David Steen, Anders Michanek, Stefan Danno, Ashley Pullen, David Walsh, Darren Shand, Steve Reinke, Barry Briggs, Steve Waplington, Matej Ferjan, Stewart McDonald, Mateusz Szczepaniak, Carl Baldwin, Maury Robinson, Dawid Stachyra, Max Clegg, Carl Blackbird, Max Schofield, Tom Ridley, Mel Taylor, Tomas Topinka, Michael Palm Toft, Edward Kennett, Ben Barker, Tony Briggs, Mick Hines, Ellis Perks, Micky Dyer, Tony Olsson, Darren Slater, Bob Kilbry, Mike Broadbank, Emil Grondal, Dave Callington, Ty Proctor, Mike Keen, Vaclav Milik, Daver Gooderham, Wayne Carter, Mike Lewthwaite, Charlie Ermolenko, Brent Collyer, Jordan Palin, Les Owen, Lewis Bridger, Ken McKinlay Some great names in there but some big omissions also. No titles for Hamill, Nicki Pedersen, Kenny Carter, Jessup, Ray Wilson?? The man with the most Silver medals is Chris Morton and the most Wooden Spoons is Scott Nicholls. Six a piece. I don't envy you that bit of research. Glad you did though. Makes interesting reading. I kinda feel like I should have got Mort too. What is also says to me is what a stalwart Chris Harris has been for each club. I've seen him copping some flak on here many times. But he truly is a throwback rider, never giving less than 100% for each club. Plus delivering some of the most exciting moments in league speedway in the modern era. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted February 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 19 hours ago, steve roberts said: Troy only got the two...1985 and 1989? 18 hours ago, salty said: Enjoyed this thread, but..... Arnie Haley is in the list with one? Sheffield never won a title so assuming it refers to his time at Cradley in 1981, but he never rode for them in th BL. Ahhh a limitation of the data. I'm unable to distinguish between which competitions the appearances relate to, so my assumption was anyone with over 5 appearances would qualify for a medal. Clearly not that simple. I don't really recall the politics of the early 80's but there seems to have been a sea change from a full traditional league programme (1 home, 1 away) into a league plus a significant League Cup programme. Perhaps the beginning of the demise? What I did notice from the data was the number of star names who disappeared, for whatever reason, during the mid 80's. Over a short period of time the product changed significantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted February 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 3 hours ago, falcace said: I don't envy you that bit of research. Glad you did though. Makes interesting reading. I kinda feel like I should have got Mort too. What is also says to me is what a stalwart Chris Harris has been for each club. I've seen him copping some flak on here many times. But he truly is a throwback rider, never giving less than 100% for each club. Plus delivering some of the most exciting moments in league speedway in the modern era. thanks. I agree re Harris. In a world where many riders use league racing to supplement their individual aspirations I always get the impression that Harris puts as much into a league fixture as he would any individual contest during his career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/20/2022 at 8:42 PM, enotian said: Some great names in there but some big omissions also. No titles for Hamill, Nicki Pedersen, Kenny Carter, Jessup, Ray Wilson?? The man with the most Silver medals is Chris Morton and the most Wooden Spoons is Scott Nicholls. Six a piece. I was with Rob Lyon last night. No, I'm not name dropping, he was one of the guest speakers at the Nuneaton Speedway Supporters Club meeting (along with Dale Allitt). I showed Rob your analysis and it sparked quite a lengthy discussion. I did point out that if Peterborough win the league again this year, Bomber will hold the record for the number of league titles, at 6, on his own. I did caution Rob though, that he had the rider with the most wooden spoons in his team. That particular stat set us thinking as to which teams and in which years Scott achieved that unenviable stat. Can you enlighten us all with the details of those 6 wooden spoons please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W9 Lion Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 32 minutes ago, False dawn said: I was with Rob Lyon last night. No, I'm not name dropping, he was one of the guest speakers at the Nuneaton Speedway Supporters Club meeting (along with Dale Allitt). I showed Rob your analysis and it sparked quite a lengthy discussion. I did point out that if Peterborough win the league again this year, Bomber will hold the record for the number of league titles, at 6, on his own. I did caution Rob though, that he had the rider with the most wooden spoons in his team. That particular stat set us thinking as to which teams and in which years Scott achieved that unenviable stat. Can you enlighten us all with the details of those 6 wooden spoons please? Nicholls @ Leicester 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted February 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 27 minutes ago, False dawn said: I was with Rob Lyon last night. No, I'm not name dropping, he was one of the guest speakers at the Nuneaton Speedway Supporters Club meeting (along with Dale Allitt). I showed Rob your analysis and it sparked quite a lengthy discussion. I did point out that if Peterborough win the league again this year, Bomber will hold the record for the number of league titles, at 6, on his own. I did caution Rob though, that he had the rider with the most wooden spoons in his team. That particular stat set us thinking as to which teams and in which years Scott achieved that unenviable stat. Can you enlighten us all with the details of those 6 wooden spoons please? Sure. Scott's first wooden spoon was 10 years into his career, finishing bottom with Ipswich in 2003. Seven years later in 2010 another Ipswich last place doubled his collection to two. A move to Swindon the following season (2011) didn't help and a third wooden spoon was added. A return to Coventry didn't work out in 2013 as they finished last. Then following the withdraw of Rye House a short (11 matches) spell with Leicester in 2018 added a fifth wooden spoon to the collection. Finally, Peterborough's last place in 2019 resulted in a sixth wooden spoon to his collection. Nearest contender to steal the unwanted record is Danny King. He's on four last places along with a host of others no longer active in the UK or retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted March 10, 2022 Report Share Posted March 10, 2022 A funny thought occurred after talking to Rob Lyon recently (see above). If the Panthers were Dad's Army last year, what do we call them this year now they're a year older? Well a cursory look into the history of teams that have won the "top league", back beyond the formation of the British League in '65, has revealed that the team that won the southern league in 1929 was the Stamford Bridge Pensioners. So there we have it. "The Peterborough Pensioners" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 As an aside Bomber appeared as a Guest in 2 finals against Swindon, on the losing side both times, for Poole and Wolves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 On 3/10/2022 at 11:04 PM, False dawn said: A funny thought occurred after talking to Rob Lyon recently (see above). If the Panthers were Dad's Army last year, what do we call them this year now they're a year older? Well a cursory look into the history of teams that have won the "top league", back beyond the formation of the British League in '65, has revealed that the team that won the southern league in 1929 was the Stamford Bridge Pensioners. So there we have it. "The Peterborough Pensioners" To be pedantic (sorry) I believe the word Pensioners never appeared in a Stamford Bridge prog, they called themselves the "Bridge" a team photo in one of their progs is headed "The Bridge Boys" not pensioners. The pensioner name was attributed by post war journalists who associated the name with Chelsea but they were Stamford Bridge not Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Historian said: To be pedantic (sorry) I believe the word Pensioners never appeared in a Stamford Bridge prog, they called themselves the "Bridge" a team photo in one of their progs is headed "The Bridge Boys" not pensioners. The pensioner name was attributed by post war journalists who associated the name with Chelsea but they were Stamford Bridge not Chelsea. Thank you for the correction. That's what you get for trusting Wikipedia eh? But despite the erroneous logic, I still think "The Peterborough Pensioners" has a certain ring to it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 19 hours ago, False dawn said: Thank you for the correction. That's what you get for trusting Wikipedia eh? But despite the erroneous logic, I still think "The Peterborough Pensioners" has a certain ring to it Not only Wiki. Homes of British Speedway and the wonderful Speedway in London refer to them as 'The Pensioners', as well as 'The Brigands' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, iris123 said: Not only Wiki. Homes of British Speedway and the wonderful Speedway in London refer to them as 'The Pensioners', as well as 'The Brigands' Sorry to go off topic, If you repeat a myth often enough it becomes fact, The Brigands name is a bit of Hoskins bull, To beef up an article in a London newspaper he refered to them as the Brigands sounds better than "The Bridge. this is the only ref to that name I have found. Edited April 5, 2022 by Historian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 3 hours ago, iris123 said: Not only Wiki. Homes of British Speedway and the wonderful Speedway in London refer to them as 'The Pensioners', as well as 'The Brigands' I had a word with the author of Speedway in London as I know him quite well and he said he thinks Historian is correct and apologises for the error, but, as Historian says, these sort of myths once ingrained keep getting repeated. I think you will also find that Speedway in London says that speedway started in West Maitland in 1923 and, as we all know now, that is a complete myth and completely untrue. He says he was very young and naive when he wrote Speedway in London……. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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