IainB Posted May 28, 2022 Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 Doesn't seem like it was a great night for Speedway last night... Unfortunately I was at Scunthorpe for 2 heats of Speedway, decided Live Speedway was better than streamed Speedway... No Win! There were a few teething problems in the early days that led me to think that something like last night happening was only going to be a matter of time, especially after some of the technical difficulties at Peterborough. I've read their statements on Twitter and they seem very fair, compare that with the twaddle on the Scunny website! One question though... With EMTV having been in operation for some time and being quite good from reports that I've heard, why were there problems last night I wonder? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvm Posted May 28, 2022 Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 This is British Speedway. What I suspect has happened, the people running British Speedway will have been of the opinion that a streaming service would never work, not enough people would sign up/be interested to make it worthwhile etc. The people at BSN thought otherwise and were willing to put there “money were there mouth is” and test the waters by giving it ago. I signed up for a season pass, and in the beginning it was Ok, nothing fantastic, but enough to justify the cost of the season pass, but importantly, the people at BSN, listened to feed back from subscribers and improved content on a weekly basis, to the point more people were willing to sign up, be it monthly passes or individual matches. I suspect, Demand has outstripped the ability to supply a consistent signal. I have no doubt that the team in charge at BSN are working on a solution, and it will be fixed. At the end of the day, it is we as fans, who have caused the problem by being willing to watch a stream service in large enough numbers for it to become an issue. How many times in the past have promoters/naysayers used “fans won’t watch/pay/turnout etc” as an excuse not to try something new or reintroduce something that was once popular like the Fours qualifiers, and they are probably the same people who will have been sceptical of a streaming service. I hope BSN goes from strength to strength and keeps improving on the back of/and for the fans who are willing to watch and there by make it a success. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 28, 2022 Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, pvm said: This is British Speedway. What I suspect has happened, the people running British Speedway will have been of the opinion that a streaming service would never work, not enough people would sign up/be interested to make it worthwhile etc. The people at BSN thought otherwise and were willing to put there “money were there mouth is” and test the waters by giving it ago. I signed up for a season pass, and in the beginning it was Ok, nothing fantastic, but enough to justify the cost of the season pass, but importantly, the people at BSN, listened to feed back from subscribers and improved content on a weekly basis, to the point more people were willing to sign up, be it monthly passes or individual matches. I suspect, Demand has outstripped the ability to supply a consistent signal. I have no doubt that the team in charge at BSN are working on a solution, and it will be fixed. At the end of the day, it is we as fans, who have caused the problem by being willing to watch a stream service in large enough numbers for it to become an issue. How many times in the past have promoters/naysayers used “fans won’t watch/pay/turnout etc” as an excuse not to try something new or reintroduce something that was once popular like the Fours qualifiers, and they are probably the same people who will have been sceptical of a streaming service. I hope BSN goes from strength to strength and keeps improving on the back of/and for the fans who are willing to watch and there by make it a success. Everyone who has subscribed has been emailed/contacted this morning (or will be) not only with the official apology but also a breakdown of the various recompense to their different subscription passes. Big investment in new equipment also underway. As a season pass subscriber I am more than happy with their explanations. Edited May 28, 2022 by Skidder1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted May 28, 2022 Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 It's got better week on week and altho last night seems to have been a bit of a shambles (I couldn't watch live) I get the impression the folk at BSN listen and will get it right. It's a big step forward for speedway which normally lives in the past. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebaker Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 Please no more of Paul Bowen in Commentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piepower Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 10 hours ago, mikebaker said: Please no more of Paul Bowen in Commentary. Hi Mike , Thanks for tuning in last night. Ill be honest it was my first go on the BSN commentary as the team and i thought we would give it ago to see what happens. As it happens i did make a few mistakes here and there, and sometimes probably came out with wrong phase, I think even i under estimated how hard it is to comment on Live speedway as it happens so fast. Its gave me a real appreciation of commenters and how skilled our own Ian Brannen is! My style is very different to most Looking at the comments I'm defo a marmite kind of person as I've had a lot of lovely comments and like yours not so good. Just wondering if i was to do another one again what could i improve on? But don't worry Mike it wont be too soon and ill be back in the Booth on Sunday in Newcastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmuncie Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, piepower said: Hi Mike , Thanks for tuning in last night. Ill be honest it was my first go on the BSN commentary as the team and i thought we would give it ago to see what happens. As it happens i did make a few mistakes here and there, and sometimes probably came out with wrong phase, I think even i under estimated how hard it is to comment on Live speedway as it happens so fast. Its gave me a real appreciation of commenters and how skilled our own Ian Brannen is! My style is very different to most Looking at the comments I'm defo a marmite kind of person as I've had a lot of lovely comments and like yours not so good. Just wondering if i was to do another one again what could i improve on? But don't worry Mike it wont be too soon and ill be back in the Booth on Sunday in Newcastle. Well done Paul for fronting up I don’t think people realise how hard a gig it is. For me I wouldn’t worry to much about your style, you have to do what comes naturally or it’ll sound stilted and you are never gonna please everyone anyway. The one thing I would say though is you can help yourself massively by getting the basics right such as who is in what heat, their names correct and be aware of the score and what’s required by teams. Viewers (particularly when they are partisan to a certain team) will get frustrated and annoyed when those go wrong. Not sure of the studio set up also but I’d also recommend watching the start of the races on the monitor rather than on track if you have one. the view along the start will always give you the best view of if anyone moves etc and allow you to know what’s happening. please take this all as constructive for a first go there is lot to take positives from, Even just stepping up and giving it a go and then not freezing up takes some doing The BSN is adding something needed in British speedway and the first year was always going to be a learning curve, we learned that the hard way at Edinburgh with our stream also 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piepower Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 1 hour ago, gmuncie said: Well done Paul for fronting up I don’t think people realise how hard a gig it is. For me I wouldn’t worry to much about your style, you have to do what comes naturally or it’ll sound stilted and you are never gonna please everyone anyway. The one thing I would say though is you can help yourself massively by getting the basics right such as who is in what heat, their names correct and be aware of the score and what’s required by teams. Viewers (particularly when they are partisan to a certain team) will get frustrated and annoyed when those go wrong. Not sure of the studio set up also but I’d also recommend watching the start of the races on the monitor rather than on track if you have one. the view along the start will always give you the best view of if anyone moves etc and allow you to know what’s happening. please take this all as constructive for a first go there is lot to take positives from, Even just stepping up and giving it a go and then not freezing up takes some doing The BSN is adding something needed in British speedway and the first year was always going to be a learning curve, we learned that the hard way at Edinburgh with our stream also Thanks for the great feedback, Your 100% right about the basics and its something i thought going into it would be no problem for me as i know alot of the riders visually. However upon watching back i have noticed there was a couple of times i got it wrong! weather it was the pressure or the fact its just happening so quick. One false look at the program or rider and it goes pete tong. Ive been at home many times watching and gone , thats not such a body how have they got that wrong now i know why ha! Maybe few more times practising in the bedroom before i may or may not give it another go. Thanks again for watching and supporting channel ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 Got to say, some of the camera work was pretty shonky from Newcastle yesterday, maybe it was the wind! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler42 Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 10:25 AM, piepower said: Thanks for the great feedback, Your 100% right about the basics and its something i thought going into it would be no problem for me as i know alot of the riders visually. However upon watching back i have noticed there was a couple of times i got it wrong! weather it was the pressure or the fact its just happening so quick. One false look at the program or rider and it goes pete tong. Ive been at home many times watching and gone , thats not such a body how have they got that wrong now i know why ha! Maybe few more times practising in the bedroom before i may or may not give it another go. Thanks again for watching and supporting channel ! I have to say, I’m loving your style of presenting. Always looks like you’re having plenty of fun and a very relaxed nice style of interviewing. Not the same old cliche questions you hear all the time. Keep doing what what you're doing mate. Keep your own style and don’t change. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwayTShirts Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 No audio on my stream tonight? Anyone else struggling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwayTShirts Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 Back on now after about 25 mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, SpeedwayTShirts said: No audio on my stream tonight? Anyone else struggling? Parents having same problem and got no sound and a frozen picture of the track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCB Wildcat Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 I used the service for the first time last night. I'm unable to watch live Speedway in the week due to work commitments and all the weekend tracks are the other end of the country. I don't get custody of the remote control until the wife has gone to bed so I bought the Edinburgh v Poole match to watch on catch up as I hadn't looked up the result. It all worked a treat for me. I guess all the live stream glitches are sorted for on demand and I thought the whole production was decent for what cost little more than a pint at the pub. No problem with Chromecast either which I've had with some of the club streams so able to watch on TV. Same again for Berwick tonight I think. Will retire to my summer house with a pack of Stella, what's not to like? (don't mention the score!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 Does anybody else find the picture jerky on the stream? Or is it just me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, iainb said: Does anybody else find the picture jerky on the stream? Or is it just me? Might be using Twitchy Batch as cameraman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Triple.H. said: Might be using Twitchy Batch as cameraman It's all camera's for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjplymouthdevil Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) I got an email from BSN with details of 6 meetings in August (including 1 x Premiership pairs). The email says the monthly pass must be purchased by 31 July. I went to sign up for the month of august on the website but there’s conflicting information: The website says I’m signing up for a rolling monthly contract and the monthly pass doesn’t include Premiership pairs. Can I sign up for the month of August alone? Does the monthly pass include the Premiership pairs? Edited July 25, 2022 by pjplymouthdevil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyPresley Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 hour ago, pjplymouthdevil said: I got an email from BSN with details of 6 meetings in August (including 1 x Premiership pairs). The email says the monthly pass must be purchased by 31 July. I went to sign up for the month of august on the website but there’s conflicting information: The website says I’m signing up for a rolling monthly contract and the monthly pass doesn’t include Premiership pairs. Can I sign up for the month of August alone? Does the monthly pass include the Premiership pairs? I got the same email this morning and already subscribe to the BSN. Their monthly subscriptions are rolling but can be cancelled on the website once you've joined. The way I read the email is that people won't be able to sign up for a monthly subscription after this week. Premiership Pairs subscriptions ended after the first round I think so you have to buy them seperately as they are not part of the monthly pass. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 On 7/25/2022 at 8:05 AM, pjplymouthdevil said: I got an email from BSN with details of 6 meetings in August (including 1 x Premiership pairs). The email says the monthly pass must be purchased by 31 July. I went to sign up for the month of august on the website but there’s conflicting information: The website says I’m signing up for a rolling monthly contract and the monthly pass doesn’t include Premiership pairs. Can I sign up for the month of August alone? Does the monthly pass include the Premiership pairs? As @AndyPresley correctly states the monthly pass is a rolling contract which can be cancelled at any time. It doesn't include the Premiership Pairs which will be available for individual purchase only with only 2 meetings left. He's also correct that the end to the monthly passes is for new subscribers only. All existing passes will continue as normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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