IainB Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 Probably my favourite place to watch Speedway from... But it's rather unimaginatively named. I know there's a Peter Craven Suite in the main stand but is there anything to commemorate the 2 men responsible for actually making the NSS happen? How about a Chris Morton Stand and Dave Gordon Pit Building? Mort is a legend of the club and doesn't seem to have any recognition. It seems strange that Peter Craven gets all of the accolades yet Mort and the other PC get nowt (that I know of) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 On 1/4/2022 at 1:34 PM, iainb said: Probably my favourite place to watch Speedway from... But it's rather unimaginatively named. I know there's a Peter Craven Suite in the main stand but is there anything to commemorate the 2 men responsible for actually making the NSS happen? How about a Chris Morton Stand and Dave Gordon Pit Building? Mort is a legend of the club and doesn't seem to have any recognition. It seems strange that Peter Craven gets all of the accolades yet Mort and the other PC get nowt (that I know of) I’m not sure if you’re being ironic matching David Gordon with the pits….. But certainly some acknowledgement of the importance to Belle Vue of Chris Morton and Peter Collins is long overdue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) I witnessed the hard work Mort put into selling bricks at Cardiff IMO there would be no NSS without his efforts ,I can't understand why he is not involved in some way in the sport now .I have read all that went on but firmly believe that he acted in good faith and in the best interest of the whole project ,IMO he is one of the all time greats of British s/way and has been treated appalingly .His name being honoured somewhere in the NSS is the least that could be done . Edited January 5, 2022 by FAST GATER 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 I'm not really familiar about what happened to Mort, I hope hasn't been bankrupted or anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted January 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, ch958 said: I'm not really familiar about what happened to Mort, I hope hasn't been bankrupted or anything I've just listened to part 2 of his interview on the 5-1 speedway show where he goes into detail about the NSS, which is why I posted this. Without Mort & Gordon there would be no NSS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, ch958 said: I'm not really familiar about what happened to Mort, I hope hasn't been bankrupted or anything I understand he lost his house over it. No doubt someone will correct me if this is wrong but it was a bit more than pub gossip. It camefrom a member of a clubs management team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, iainb said: I've just listened to part 2 of his interview on the 5-1 speedway show where he goes into detail about the NSS, which is why I posted this. Without Mort & Gordon there would be no NSS. Mort and Gordon’s efforts over a period of years were enormous. The way they were treated was disgraceful. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 47 minutes ago, E I Addio said: Mort and Gordon’s efforts over a period of years were enormous. The way they were treated was disgraceful. Chris Morton, David Gordon and George Carswell were treated very badly by the BSPA. It was shown that the problems of that year were caused by Manchester Council and their inept contractors, yet all 3 lost their promoters licences. Mort still does visit the NSS on occasions, especially the Peter Craven meeting, as he owns the Peter Craven Trophy, but still allows the club to present it to the winner each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: Chris Morton, David Gordon and George Carswell were treated very badly by the BSPA. It was shown that the problems of that year were caused by Manchester Council and their inept contractors, yet all 3 lost their promoters licences. Mort still does visit the NSS on occasions, especially the Peter Craven meeting, as he owns the Peter Craven Trophy, but still allows the club to present it to the winner each year. Thanks for that information . It’s very sad, after the way they struggled with Kirky Lane. In a way it seems to encapsulate everything that is chronically wrong with the sport. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted January 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 It seems a strange one that The Queen can honour Mort but nobody in Speedway or at Belle Vue can... And I bet The Queen has never been to the NSS! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 hour ago, iainb said: It seems a strange one that The Queen can honour Mort but nobody in Speedway or at Belle Vue can... And I bet The Queen has never been to the NSS! I bet "One" used to go to "Ones" local track though..... Took her kids too probably... As for Mort, and Dave Gordon, their legacy is quite conceivably the best race track in the world.. Even if it isnt officially recognised, that will always be the case.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 hours ago, iainb said: And I bet The Queen has never been to the NSS! Not the NSS, but she did go to Hyde Road. Did a bit of flagging on the centre green at one meeting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 15 hours ago, E I Addio said: Mort and Gordon’s efforts over a period of years were enormous. The way they were treated was disgraceful. I listened to the 5-1 show interview and it’s incredible the problems and hurdles Gordon and Mort had to get over which took 10 years to get NSS built which was the biggest thing to happen in recent history of speedway ever. They should write a book and also expose the treachery of the BSPA that Mort alluded to in the show. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldace Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 45 minutes ago, Speedtiger said: I listened to the 5-1 show interview and it’s incredible the problems and hurdles Gordon and Mort had to get over which took 10 years to get NSS built which was the biggest thing to happen in recent history of speedway ever. They should write a book and also expose the treachery of the BSPA that Mort alluded to in the show. Do you have a link to the 5-1 one show. I'd like to listen to it. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted January 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, coldace said: Do you have a link to the 5-1 one show. I'd like to listen to it. Thanks I think it's usually on YouTube if you give it a search https://youtu.be/v4e3aD8WZC4 Edited January 6, 2022 by iainb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 hours ago, mikebv said: I bet "One" used to go to "Ones" local track though..... Took her kids too probably... As for Mort, and Dave Gordon, their legacy is quite conceivably the best race track in the world.. Even if it isnt officially recognised, that will always be the case.. I'm sure I've seen her at Lynn while she's been staying at Sandringham, wading through the puddles in the back straight car park and queueing for a burger and a pint during during the interval. I wonder if she pays the extra pound to sit or likes to stand on the bends and get a scalp full of shale? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 17 hours ago, E I Addio said: Mort and Gordon’s efforts over a period of years were enormous. The way they were treated was disgraceful. Wasnt there some "plan" devised to try and get the NSS into the hands of some existing promoters? But Mcr Council didnt fancy taking up that option... Hence Adrian Smith and his backers were given the Green light.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 21 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I'm sure I've seen her at Lynn while she's been staying at Sandringham, wading through the puddles in the back straight car park and queueing for a burger and a pint during during the interval. I wonder if she pays the extra pound to sit or likes to stand on the bends and get a scalp full of shale? Maybe when the Monarchs were there? Or Crewe Kings? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 The more you hear about the cronies that make up the BSPL Ltd. the more I wonder whether they are the root cause of British Speedway's continuing decline ? We have the crook at Eastbourne who has disappeared owing riders thousands of pounds getting off scot free, and been instrumental in getting Eastbourne Speedway closed down ... yet Chris Morton is banned from being a promoter for ..... being involved in building a Nation Speedway Stadium, which the BSPA frankly showed no interest ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 Maybe call the stand the legends stand and do a online vote to establish ten riders who deserve a place and have ten large photo boards mounted in the stand. be handy if you are meeting someone at the stadium as you can say I’ll be in the south stand in the Chris Morton section. a club of such heritage in a modern stadium should remember the history like they do for Peter craven. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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