PotteringAround Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, chunky said: Struggling at the moment. Have Jack, Norman, Dennis, Len, and Shane... There was Roger Parker who had a not very spectacular short stint with Stoke in the early 70s before being killed at a grasstrack meeting. And Rob Parker who rode at NDL and MDL level a couple of years ago, and who I believe was the grandson of Norman and great-nephew of Jack. Edited December 30, 2021 by PotteringAround Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 52 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: There was Roger Parker who had a not very spectacular short stint with Stoke in the early 70s before being killed at a grasstrack meeting. And Rob Parker who rode at NDL and MDL level a couple of years ago, and who I believe was the grandson of Norman and great-nephew of Jack. Oops! Should have remembered Roger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, waiheke1 said: Les on top form was truly world class (add the 80 BLRC to his 82 performances). From 83-86 Phil was the better rider though ( and Les was arguably surpassed by Neil as well from 85), with thr highlight being the overseas title win in the wet. I see your point, but to me there is no question that they rank Peter, Les, Phil, Neil, Stephen. If there's a question mark, it's whether Neil's longevity places him ahead of Phil (personally, I'd say not). I wouldn't ask anyone outside to debate that. The anorak in me likes the age ranking order alongside their biggest achievements... Peter - 1st World Final Les - 1st Intercontinental Final Phil - 1st Overseas Final Neil - 3rd Commonwealth Final Steve - 1st, erm, in a GB Junior Grasstrack Final? But I can't help the nagging suspicion that Les's purple patch in 82 which resulted in the Intercontinental title and finishing 2nd in the World Final (and let's be honest, he really should have won it), owed a fair bit to having a the fastest bike. For whatever reason, that Jawa was ticking over brilliantly. Faster than Penhall's Eddie Bull-tuned Weslake, faster than anyone else. Les never reached those heights again, he was never an automatic for England and only ever averaged 8 at best in the BL. Loved watching him though. One of my favourite moments was seeing live the opening race of the Edinburgh - Glasgow KO Cup Final in 94? It was packed at Powderhall and Les brought the house down by rounding both Robert Nagy and Mick Powell on the last bend to win. Edited December 30, 2021 by falcace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 4 hours ago, falcace said: I wouldn't ask anyone outside to debate that. The anorak in me likes the age ranking order alongside their biggest achievements... Peter - 1st World Final Les - 1st Intercontinental Final Phil - 1st Overseas Final Neil - 3rd Commonwealth Final Steve - 1st, erm, in a GB Junior Grasstrack Final? But I can't help the nagging suspicion that Les's purple patch in 82 which resulted in the Intercontinental title and finishing 2nd in the World Final (and let's be honest, he really should have won it), owed a fair bit to having a the fastest bike. For whatever reason, that Jawa was ticking over brilliantly. Faster than Penhall's Eddie Bull-tuned Weslake, faster than anyone else. Les never reached those heights again, he was never an automatic for England and only ever averaged 8 at best in the BL. Loved watching him though. One of my favourite moments was seeing live the opening race of the Edinburgh - Glasgow KO Cup Final in 94? It was packed at Powderhall and Les brought the house down by rounding both Robert Nagy and Mick Powell on the last bend to win. My cheekier take on them: Peter made World Champion Les made World Runner-up Phil made the World Final Neil made the British Final Steve made the tea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Andersson - Jan, Bjorn, Bengt, Stefan, Ake, Dennis, Joel, Eric, Daniel, Marcus, Jonas... Andersen - Jan, Frank, Brian, Kasper, Hans, Morten, Anders... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sotonian said: My cheekier take on them: Peter made World Champion Les made World Runner-up Phil made the World Final Neil made the British Final Steve made the tea Sounds about right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, Sotonian said: My cheekier take on them: Peter made World Champion Les made World Runner-up Phil made the World Final Neil made the British Final Steve made the tea Shouldn't laugh really. He might have had a better chance without that unprecedented pedigree. No pressure eh? I think (hopefully someone else can confirm?) that Steve had a decent night for Cradley one night at Hyde Road, winning a race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 55 minutes ago, falcace said: Shouldn't laugh really. He might have had a better chance without that unprecedented pedigree. No pressure eh? I think (hopefully someone else can confirm?) that Steve had a decent night for Cradley one night at Hyde Road, winning a race. The only thing I could find was when he scored 9 paid 10 against Exeter... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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