chunky Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Just now, enotian said: I'm aware of Tommy and Bengt as World Final standard riders, who is the other? Who would be the 2nd strings and reserves? I recall the lad from Ipswich from recent history. Tommy's dad Joel, and Bengt's brother Lars would be the next two in line, followed by Tommy's brother Bo. Then Jimmy and Kim... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted December 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, chunky said: Williams - Fred, Eric, Ian, Peter, John, John J, Keith, Ian (Wimbledon junior)' See above... 1 world Champion? How many were World Finalists? How many were top flight heatleaders? Pedersen's have 2 world champions and a GP winner as a heat leader trio, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, spin king said: I was going for a full team all from the same family. Pretty unique I think. Not unique... The Dugards had Charlie, John, Bob, Eric, Martin, Paul, and Kelsey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, enotian said: I was thinking off Brian Collins in the top five. Not related but decent top flight rider in the 70's? Wembley? Or Vic, pre-war Southampton captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, enotian said: 1 world Champion? How many were World Finalists? How many were top flight heatleaders? Pedersen's have 2 world champions and a GP winner as a heat leader trio, Three world Finalists... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted December 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, chunky said: Tommy's dad Joel, and Bengt's brother Lars would be the next two in line, followed by Tommy's brother Bo. Then Jimmy and Kim... Like it. Maybe not the top end strength of the Pedersen's but more strength in depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Just now, enotian said: 1 world Champion? How many were World Finalists? How many were top flight heatleaders? Pedersen's have 2 world champions and a GP winner as a heat leader trio, 2 world titles and 9 world final appearances between the 3 heat leaders Freddie, Eric and Ian. backed up by Peter, John, John J, and.... not sure who's next best out of the many riders named Williams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Not necessarily to the same strength, but other names that could field teams are: Smith - Pete, Pete, Peter, Alan, Don, Frank, Graeme, Kevin, Scott, Scott, Mike, Andy, Paul... Jackson - Alan, Dave, Dave, John, Peter, Wayne, Rob, Gerry... Brown - Wayne, Allan, Dingle, Malcolm, Tom, Max, Walter... White - Vic, Keith, Colin, Doug, Jon Jon, Phil, George... Wilson - Ray, Reg, Ian, John, Guy, Des, Sean, Steve... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted December 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, chunky said: Not necessarily to the same strength, but other names that could field teams are: Smith - Pete, Pete, Peter, Alan, Don, Frank, Graeme, Kevin, Scott, Scott, Mike, Andy, Paul... Jackson - Alan, Dave, Dave, John, Peter, Wayne, Rob, Gerry... Brown - Wayne, Allan, Dingle, Malcolm, Tom, Max, Walter... White - Vic, Keith, Colin, Doug, Jon Jon, Phil, George... Wilson - Ray, Reg, Ian, John, Guy, Des, Sean, Steve... Nice. I'm still swaying towards the Collins' given that extra world finalist. Could there be a Lawson septet? Maybe a surnames 4TT would be competitive. Collins', Pedersen's, Jansson's, Williams' Edited December 29, 2021 by enotian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, enotian said: Nice. I'm still swaying towards the Collins' given that extra world finalist. Could there be a Lawson septet? I can only think of five, off the top of my head.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, chunky said: I can only think of five, off the top of my head.. Aub, Louis, Steve, Richard, Willie.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Jensen - Finn, Jesper, Mikkel Bech, Michael Jepsen, Rasmus, Steen, Claes... Johansson - Tommy, Uno, Lillebror, Tobias, Stefan, Robert, Jorgen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: Aub, Louis, Steve, Richard, Willie.... That's what I had! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Cook - John, Craig, Colin, Ben, Zach, Jon and Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 hour ago, iris123 said: Could only remember Peter and Les in the final. My bad I'll forgive you Always reckon Phil and Les are a closer match than most would suggest. Sure, Les had some standout individual success, particularly in 82. But Phil was a better rider for England than Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 2 hours ago, chunky said: Not necessarily to the same strength, but other names that could field teams are: Jackson - Alan, Dave, Dave, John, Peter, Wayne, Rob, Gerry... Syd, Star Riders' finalist in five consecutive years, 1930-34. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 21 minutes ago, norbold said: Syd, Star Riders' finalist in five consecutive years, 1930-34. Good call... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Is there a team of Parkers? Asking for an anorak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, falcace said: Is there a team of Parkers? Asking for an anorak. Struggling at the moment. Have Jack, Norman, Dennis, Len, and Shane... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 17 hours ago, falcace said: I'll forgive you Always reckon Phil and Les are a closer match than most would suggest. Sure, Les had some standout individual success, particularly in 82. But Phil was a better rider for England than Les. Les on top form was truly world class (add the 80 BLRC to his 82 performances). From 83-86 Phil was the better rider though ( and Les was arguably surpassed by Neil as well from 85), with thr highlight being the overseas title win in the wet. I see your point, but to me there is no question that they rank Peter, Les, Phil, Neil, Stephen. If there's a question mark, it's whether Neil's longevity places him ahead of Phil (personally, I'd say not). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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