cinderfella Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Turnip said: Problem is the current promotion/management are not doing much to save Birmingham going forward. For one, rewarding away supporters before rewarding home supporters. That is a massive no no! For those 5 home championship meetings in June they should run a promotion, e.g have a package where u buy tickets for all 5 & av £25 discounted off or buy all 5 & av a reduction on the summer trophy meetings. It's promotional madness to be doing what they are doing, maybe they're doing it because it looks like they're trying to be welcoming to away fans but in reality they know with the offer to away fans there is little risk to their pockets! Oh, I've got about 4 Cradley & Coventry programme boards. Maybe I should stand outside the stadium & be a programme board tout! Birmingham av got me Pirates next Wednesday but on a different issue the Travelodge there as gone up from £60 -£90 since I booked for the original staging. £90 to stay in Perry Barr are u kidding!! They should be avin a word with Travelodge to sort out sum kind of deal for speedway fans to stay, that would make more sense! I know need 20 pints! Part of the whole problem is there are too many Promoters don't know how to promote their product properly. When you think of names like Charles Ochiltree, Ian Thomas, Bill Bridget, The Hoskins', Neil McFarlane to name a few they knew how to get bodies in the stadium every week and then come back for more. Maybe all the H&S regulations about what you can't do or must do have left the entertainment aspect stale. There was always something going on at meetings when I was a kid and riders were allowed to become personalities good guys and villans, to the fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, cinderfella said: Part of the whole problem is there are too many Promoters don't know how to promote their product properly. When you think of names like Charles Ochiltree, Ian Thomas, Bill Bridget, The Hoskins', Neil McFarlane to name a few they knew how to get bodies in the stadium every week and then come back for more. Maybe all the H&S regulations about what you can't do or must do have left the entertainment aspect stale. There was always something going on at meetings when I was a kid and riders were allowed to become personalities good guys and villans, to the fans. We had camels strollin round the track, sometimes the riders were like that , when the circus was in town in Long Eaton. Somewhere there's a photo of Steve Johnston riding on the back of one of them back in the 90's. Maybe Tony Mole only did it for the dung! (that's a oh dear kinda joke! dung bung) Edited May 17, 2022 by Turnip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerbat1875 Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 In these difficult times where money is hard to find to even warm the house, Birmingham do this, the club will probably cease to exist beyond the end of June, the fans have been lied to about Ellis and then say Adam knew the arrangement before he left well the fans were not told this, very amateur from the club, people will not trust anything from the Perry Barr promotion ever again. Brummies should be one of the top clubs in the country based on history, location etc but are just a laughing stock, LR is an experienced speedway man and is letting the brummie fans down time and time again, poor decision making and weak signings 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 Who had sedgy down for winning his 1st heat? Lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, Jaizer said: Who had sedgy down for winning his 1st heat? Lol To beat Jack Thomas and Cam Heeps... most people i would have thought 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Fromafar said: It’s pretty obvious the Ellis signed a short term contract,even the statement hints that was the case. 9 hours ago, iainb said: 23/03/22 : BIRMINGHAM have pulled off the signing of reigning British Champion Adam Ellis... and completes their side for the coming season... we had to wait for a few things to fall into place. We hit a few pitfalls along the way and we’ve had to be patient with one or two things. 30/03/22 Ellis: It’s been a bit frantic getting everything ready because of the way things developed over the last few days but I’m looking forward to getting started. I travelled to press day not sure if I would be allowed to have my picture taken or give any interviews because there was a stumbling block over the move, something I didn’t quite understand but it got sorted thankfully! 16/05/22: The consortium were always aware that this situation was a possibility... It was always understood that, should the situation arise... Adam has always been upfront with the club regarding his commitments moving forward into the summer... Pick the bones out of that! Whatever happened to Josh Grajczonek? 9 hours ago, scoobydoo said: You can bet that Ellis held the Brummies promotion to a high guarantee ransam for the 28days and he will do it again with another championship club IF he signed/confirmed around 23/3 for a 28 short term contract, how come he rode against the Scorpions on 4/5(some 6 weeks later)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petecc Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 Humble pie anyone? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: IF he signed/confirmed around 23/3 for a 28 short term contract, how come he rode against the Scorpions on 4/5(some 6 weeks later)? 6 week contract? Truth is we'll never know... anyway the King is dead, long live the King! Promotion will be patting themselves on the back tomorrow, fair play though, great result for the Brummies tonight, let's hope they can put this latest sorry saga behind them and move on to better times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Petecc said: Humble pie anyone? Why whats changed ?, except Brum have won. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Petecc said: Humble pie anyone? Only humble pie if the management made the change to strengthen the team... which they may well be claiming tomorrow morning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike0310 Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 Us speedway fans are a fickle bunch and I include myself in that well done Sedgmen 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Mike0310 said: Us speedway fans are a fickle bunch and I include myself in that well done Sedgmen Nothing fickle about it Mike, this latest episode has been all about honesty and transparency. Well done to all of the riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejam Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Petecc said: Humble pie anyone? As I have already said no one is against the consortium putting their money where their mouths areThink we all know where the problem lies 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 So it's Birminghams fault regarding travelodge prices!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, sommelier said: So it's Birminghams fault regarding travelodge prices!! After the Commonwealth Games, when all the building work is finished and all the temporary workers have gone home, watch the prices at that Travelodge tumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 This isn't any different to BWD at Newcastle at the moment, in my opinion. He might ride again, but if he doesn't, at least Brum have found a replacement. The bottom line is that there isn't enough riders available for the league, & Plymouth have got a similar problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 7 hours ago, proud panther said: The bottom line is that there isn't enough riders available for the league You don't need to tell anyone at Birmingham or Plymouth that. It's the fantasist clamouring for the reopening of Bradford, Coventry, Eastbourne, Reading, Swindon etc. who need convincing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 2 hours ago, uk_martin said: You don't need to tell anyone at Birmingham or Plymouth that. It's the fantasist clamouring for the reopening of Bradford, Coventry, Eastbourne, Reading, Swindon etc. who need convincing. It's the same with people saying we should have a squad system, where do the riders come from? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, tyretrax said: It's the same with people saying we should have a squad system, where do the riders come from? They come from abroad, like they used to before Covid. I don't know why they've not come back Brexit? or maybe the Polish U24 league, maybe a bit of both. Looking at some of the riders riding in the PU24 they were exactly the type of riders that would have plied their trade over here, there's a number of stand out young Aussies that are riding in that league but not over here. They need tempting back some how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, tyretrax said: It's the same with people saying we should have a squad system, where do the riders come from? Although I would like to see the PL & CL merged to make one large league I do acknowledge that the shortfall of riders makes that improbable without changing the whole format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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