Gerbat1875 Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 Come on Lawrence when are you announcing the 3 riders to turn us into the genuine title contenders you mentioned almost 2 weeks ago ? can we use 3 guests for the rest of the season, because it looks like thats what we are hoping for at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummies_Ste Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Gerbat1875 said: Come on Lawrence when are you announcing the 3 riders to turn us into the genuine title contenders you mentioned almost 2 weeks ago ? can we use 3 guests for the rest of the season, because it looks like thats what we are hoping for at the moment You are not allowed to use guests or r-r for non existent riders The truth is Rogers is in the poo Edited February 14, 2022 by Brummies_Ste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerbat1875 Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Brummies_Ste said: You are not allowed to use guests or r-r for non exitment riders. The truth is Rogers is in the poo That's what I think, would not surprise me to see the brummies not make it to tapes, unless the magicians hat comes out soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 The longer this goes on the more worrying it gets with regards the 3 as yet unsigned riders, I have no idea if Birmingham have a sponsors licence or not because if they havent then the riders available on UK licences are pretty much all signed up, I have no idea what the position is with regards European riders and visas since Brexit if indeed Visas are needed that will then depend on if Birmingham have a sponsors licence or not. What I will say is if Birmingham cannot sign riders with the ability to make them competitive then crowds will suffer badly and they will be on a hiding to nothing financially, I have said elsewhere that whilst LR may be good at many things his record as a Team manager above the NL is pretty poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebaker Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 Remember the 2008 Mildenhall Premier League team. Didn't Rogers team manage them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, heathen52 said: I have no idea if Birmingham have a sponsors licence or not... Nothing in the press releases (no matter how many issues of Speedway Star you scour through) about sponsors of any sort. The new owners made their reliance on increased sponsorship plain for all to hear when they took over. Maybe this is at the heart of the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 I don't think for a minute that there would be any ongoing track work happening if they didn't have enough riders to start the season or to not run at all.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimsboy Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Brummies_Ste said: You are not allowed to use guests or r-r for non existent riders The truth is Rogers is in the poo Yes he's selling his consortium down the pan Edited February 14, 2022 by Jimsboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jimsboy said: Yes he's selling his consortium down the pan For what benefit tho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, uk_martin said: Nothing in the press releases (no matter how many issues of Speedway Star you scour through) about sponsors of any sort. The new owners made their reliance on increased sponsorship plain for all to hear when they took over. Maybe this is at the heart of the issue. UKm I take your point about Sponsors sponsoring the Team, Riders or anything else available to sponsor, and being in the 2nd city I would have thought some sponsorship would be out there to obtain. However I was referring to the fact that so far as im aware it used to be and probably still is, if anyone wants to employ anyone that requires a visa said employer requires a sponsors Licence and as we are now no longer members of the EU do European riders now need a visa ?, This kind of thing https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1024033/Sponsor-an-International-Sportsperson-10-21.pdf it can be a bit of a minefield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Jorgensen isn't riding in the Championship this year apparently. Gappmaier would've signed for Berwick if he was riding in the UK in my personal opinion, I personally cant picture the Berwick management opting for Proctor over a track specialist in Gappmaier. Adam Ellis wants a guarantee and that could be too risky for the Birmingham promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 7 hours ago, TTT said: Jorgensen isn't riding in the Championship this year apparently. Gappmaier would've signed for Berwick if he was riding in the UK in my personal opinion, I personally cant picture the Berwick management opting for Proctor over a track specialist in Gappmaier. Adam Ellis wants a guarantee and that could be too risky for the Birmingham promotion. Plus Ellis wages would be too high no doubt...after all he is the British Champion which you'd have thought gives him more of a salary status? I think from a PR perspective 'LR' needs to update the fans on the situation....whose going to buy a season ticket under the current circumstances? How can 'B'ham' advertise/market their season based on half a team? You'd think a new business venture would want to spread the word and do all they can to convince 'old/lost' fans to return ??? Let's face it, there's not going to be many new fans these days. Feeling a bit under whelmed atm...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 8 hours ago, TTT said: Jorgensen isn't riding in the Championship this year apparently. Gappmaier would've signed for Berwick if he was riding in the UK in my personal opinion, I personally cant picture the Berwick management opting for Proctor over a track specialist in Gappmaier. Adam Ellis wants a guarantee and that could be too risky for the Birmingham promotion. Good point about Gappmaier so far as Berwick are concerned........there is definitely something holding him back from committing to the Championship this season? Like you, I dont think B'ham will get his signature anytime soon.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, heathen52 said: However I was referring to the fact that so far as im aware it used to be and probably still is, if anyone wants to employ anyone that requires a visa said employer requires a sponsors Licence and as we are now no longer members of the EU do European riders now need a visa ?, I appreciate what you say. I think though that the "sponsorship" bridges have to be crossed as you come to them. The Brummies gained a crappy reputation thanks to its former owners for not paying some foreign riders. The current owners have stated that the finances are on a knife-edge and have not yet demonstrated that there's money in the pot through new sponsorship to pay riders this year either. If you were sat at home in Denmark, or Germany or wherever, would that be an enticing prospect to you, not knowing if your efforts were going to be rewarded or not? Contrast this to previous years when there were plenty of announcements about new sponsors (Mercon, Selco, Edwards et al...) This year - zip. The only sponsorship announcement this year was about the Bulls MDL team. Even the Edwards Plumbing adverts have been removed off the web site which now features less than half a dozen adverts in total. If the riders aren't willing to come over to ride for a team, not knowing whether or not they are going to be paid, then you aren't going to get as far as the visa sponsors license issue. Edited February 15, 2022 by uk_martin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Not sure what 'LR's' angle/intention is so far as team completion goes? I suppose he doesn't want to keep repeating that we are close etc.... Silence is only positive in 'negative' situations IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Maybe the club are in the process of gaining a sponsor license to enable them to sign work permit riders. This could be a plausible reason for the delay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Im still hoping for a competitive side to be created (as a poor team does nobody any favours) but i do feel a burst of honesty would be refreshing from the club. An announcement of we missed out on a few captures due to confidence in the club and we wont break the bank to sign riders. Our goal is to get through the season and build on foundations.......rather than the spiel that we are still looking to build a play off team blah blah. I genuinely hope that a rabbit or two contacts the club but i do feel if they were even in the wind the rumours would be out and circulating. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: Maybe the club are in the process of gaining a sponsor license to enable them to sign work permit riders. This could be a plausible reason for the delay. Sure... I think an update from the club would be helpful and encouraging. As for Permits etc, surely this should've been activated as soon as they decided to kick on last November? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 I have no doubt the club/management will be doing all they can to get things over the line.... Seeing/hearing about all the work that's going on with the track/stadium is inspiring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSL84 Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 minute ago, GiveusaB said: I have no doubt the club/management will be doing all they can to get things over the line.... Seeing/hearing about all the work that's going on with the track/stadium is inspiring. Been told the track work is near completion. So when the team is complete and I'm sure it will be sorted soon, will have a good track to race on. That's got to be a positive. Sure all be OK in the end . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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