lewy Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Brummies23 said: Think I’m gonna wait till we all find out who the rest of the team is before getting mine. Want to be entertained for my money worth and going every Wednesday and seeing us lose isn’t for me. If everyone had this attitude brum won't last the season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, mikebv said: A good few years ago now, (2012 maybe), I got talking in the pits at a meeting with the major sponsor of a rider who was then riding as a "top rider" in both leagues, as he doubled up/down as a heat leader in both.. The rider in question had spent circa £30k the year before, only riding in the UK.. He also told me how much approximately the rider had earned which left me amazed given how few patrons are engaged enough to attend Speedway meetings... The figure quoted was "impressive" but realistically, upon reflection, was around the "normal expectant return" on such a huge level of investment in your "business", especially as you then have the usual day to day living costs to pay out of your "profit"... A level of investment which was described as "normal for his level of rider"... In a sport that attracts so relatively few through the doors you can clearly see why it struggles, with their "employees", quite naturally, wanting recompense to reflect their considerable outlay... Wouldnt of been a certain Mr Gjedde your talking about, would it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, lewy said: If everyone had this attitude brum won't last the season Always find this odd… why should people part with there money when theres so many unknowns. Its up to Birmingham to entice people with a well put together side not fans to just part with there cash to watch rubbish 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, phillipsr said: Always find this odd… why should people part with there money when theres so many unknowns. Its up to Birmingham to entice people with a well put together side not fans to just part with there cash to watch rubbish Not really brum have signed some entertaining riders so far and you get to watch the opposition who will also provide some good riders,at Plymouth last season we finished 2nd to bottom and I enjoyed every meeting. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummies23 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 hours ago, lewy said: Not really brum have signed some entertaining riders so far and you get to watch the opposition who will also provide some good riders,at Plymouth last season we finished 2nd to bottom and I enjoyed every meeting. Who are these entertaining riders?? because out the 4 names only nielsen I’m looking forward too, only if he stays fit. A good number one and another top rider and a rider on either a 4/5 will do and will give there all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummies23 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 hours ago, lewy said: If everyone had this attitude brum won't last the season I paid good money last year and only Harris and maybe paco on his day turned up, waste of my fuel and evening. So hopefully big names won’t ruin them this time around 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 3 hours ago, lewy said: Not really brum have signed some entertaining riders so far and you get to watch the opposition who will also provide some good riders,at Plymouth last season we finished 2nd to bottom and I enjoyed every meeting. I barely missed a meeting at Arena Essex in the first eight years it ran and the season I enjoyed the most was when they finished second from bottom as every match was very close score wise although sadly too often the Hammers snatched defeat out of victory. For close matches it is much better to have a team in the lower half of the league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Brummies23 said: Think I’m gonna wait till we all find out who the rest of the team is before getting mine. Want to be entertained for my money worth and going every Wednesday and seeing us lose isn’t for me. This is a fair comment...although, may be its my age, but I'd rather see us lose 46-44, than see us win 75 -15, providing it was close/exciting racing..... No disrespect intended, but I don't think Poole supporters would settle for this mentality, simply because they are used to winning.....and we're not! We've won nothing worth mentioning since 1974 IMO and even then it was only division 2. As I've got older, it's not about the money, it's about time becoming more precious and wasting a Wednesday evening. So far, the team looks steady, but we do need a number 1, even if only to draw the neutral in every now and then. Edited January 5, 2022 by GiveusaB 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 11 hours ago, Pinny said: Wouldnt of been a certain Mr Gjedde your talking about, would UK rider, not Charlie... Certainly a lot of money getting paid out to compete in a sport that gets crowds that many non league football teams would be concerned about getting.. With their players only outlay being a decent pair of football boots costing £150 to £200... Pity the sports marketing budget isnt the same amount the clubs pay out in points money.. If it was, maybe a brighter future would be the outcome.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 On 1/3/2022 at 9:39 PM, Diamonds85 said: Is it anyone's business what a rider gets paid? It's not my business what you get paid, so it's not your business what I get paid... To an extent it is somebody’s business when they are paying the wages. As a paying fan, they are paying that rider’s wage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argos Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 It’s all very well when supporters say it’s great we are running we will support the Brummies, But the minute you start loosing at home the so called fans will disappear, and unfortunately the Team so far looks like they are going to loose a lot of home meetings unless they pull a rabbit out of the bag, but there’s no rabbits out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 This wages business seems to be about 'opinion' ? I don't think its anyone's business other than the club/rider. Doesn't mean to say it's not of interest to the supporter....hence the word 'supporter' I guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Argos said: It’s all very well when supporters say it’s great we are running we will support the Brummies, But the minute you start loosing at home the so called fans will disappear, and unfortunately the Team so far looks like they are going to loose a lot of home meetings unless they pull a rabbit out of the bag, but there’s no rabbits out there as previously stated....for me, it's about the product and not the result....I'd have stopped going a long time ago if it was about results. I agree though....we definitely need a big hitter to join the ranks...someone that can win Heats 1 and 15 home and away. I'm sure LR knows this and is no doubt working on a plan. The website says that talks are in progress with a couple of riders.....hopefully, proven, 'good riders'! Edited January 5, 2022 by GiveusaB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 10 hours ago, Chris116 said: I barely missed a meeting at Arena Essex in the first eight years it ran and the season I enjoyed the most was when they finished second from bottom as every match was very close score wise although sadly too often the Hammers snatched defeat out of victory. For close matches it is much better to have a team in the lower half of the league. Got to agree watching the "comets" in 1980 when we only won 2 matches was just as good if not better than when we had far better teams with "stoney and steady" . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, mikebv said: UK rider, not Charlie... Certainly a lot of money getting paid out to compete in a sport that gets crowds that many non league football teams would be concerned about getting.. With their players only outlay being a decent pair of football boots costing £150 to £200... Pity the sports marketing budget isnt the same amount the clubs pay out in points money.. If it was, maybe a brighter future would be the outcome.. Cook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Cook. Which one? I think there's around 3 in this league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, The Dog said: Which one? I think there's around 3 in this league We’re talking 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 Oh jeez lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 For what it's worth as Glasgow fan whose watched great successes and dire failure I have tbh and say the most enjoyable days and exciting racing was probably during the dire failure. In the magical years of the double double 93/94, whilst being successful was great the racing at shawfield was pretty average at best. Most teams were beaten before they showed and cricket scores were the norm. Bowes and Lyons were always good to watch but most meetings were over by heat 8. Similar in 2011 most home matches were a walkover with the off bit of entertainment from screeny, Josh G and some erratic riding by nick Morris. However, the years in-between were probably the best racing I'd seen, watching Les Collins, Mick Powell, Jimmy greives, Shane Parker and George stancl was a pleasure and some of the moves by messrs Parker and Collins had to be seen to be believed. And although never finished much in the top half giving the so-called fancied teams a bloody nose in a last heat decider was as good a feeling as you can get. Now there were a few spankings along the way, Swindon scoring 60 springs to mind, but we were still back the next week for more. Hopefully Birmingham fans can have that feeling this season even if it's not to be a successful season in terms of trophies 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljriley90 Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jaizer said: For what it's worth as Glasgow fan whose watched great successes and dire failure I have tbh and say the most enjoyable days and exciting racing was probably during the dire failure. In the magical years of the double double 93/94, whilst being successful was great the racing at shawfield was pretty average at best. Most teams were beaten before they showed and cricket scores were the norm. Bowes and Lyons were always good to watch but most meetings were over by heat 8. Similar in 2011 most home matches were a walkover with the off bit of entertainment from screeny, Josh G and some erratic riding by nick Morris. However, the years in-between were probably the best racing I'd seen, watching Les Collins, Mick Powell, Jimmy greives, Shane Parker and George stancl was a pleasure and some of the moves by messrs Parker and Collins had to be seen to be believed. And although never finished much in the top half giving the so-called fancied teams a bloody nose in a last heat decider was as good a feeling as you can get. Now there were a few spankings along the way, Swindon scoring 60 springs to mind, but we were still back the next week for more. Hopefully Birmingham fans can have that feeling this season even if it's not to be a successful season in terms of trophies I hear you. As odd as it sounds i enjoyed watching the dire belle vue teams of the early 2000s. Lyons and Laukkanen were bankers around Kirky Lane and then it was a nervous wait to see if Karger could manage four laps before falling or if andy smith, glenn cunningham, kev doolan or neil collins could chip in at all. After the Peter Nahlin debacle the few home wins belle vue managed in 2000 in the end were brilliant to watch 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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