Popular Post heathen52 Posted December 11, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) Let me say what i do know about Laurence Rogers, Firstly I have no idea if he owes anyone any money or not, he is a Speedway Fan above all else, he lives, eats, sleeps, breathes Speedway and has done for many years, yes its true that many of his Speedway projects have fallen by the wayside Mildenhall, Newport, to name a few and he has been involved with other Teams such as Coventry and more recently Plymouth, then there was the young American touring Teams put together by Steve Evans and others. Laurence is an ordinary working guy just like you and I who has done his best to try to keep these teams going, yes primarily with other peoples money but had he not tried then the majority of these Teams would have closed down sooner rather than later, Its surely better to have tried and failed then to have not tried at all, he is always willing to give young riders help and assistance to get on in the sport, The other thing that I know about Laurence is that if I contacted him wanted some help with something to do with Speedway he would most likely never say no and that maybe that is his biggest failing if it can be called that. I agree he is probably not the finest team manager that there ever was but thats possibly more to do with budget restrictions than anything else. My final word, It would probably have been easier for Laurence to walk away from Birmingham speedway and let it be consigned to the history books than to have the hassle and ingratitude of some by trying to keep speedway in Birmingham, but NO speedway is in his blood just like you and I, agreed maybe its not his money but no-one forces these people to put money into clubs that are struggling to survive, one thing is for sure Speedway will be the poorer when he finally decides enough is enough. Edited December 11, 2021 by heathen52 10 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 4 hours ago, heathen52 said: Let me say what i do know about Laurence Rogers, Firstly I have no idea if he owes anyone any money or not, he is a Speedway Fan above all else, he lives, eats, sleeps, breathes Speedway and has done for many years, yes its true that many of his Speedway projects have fallen by the wayside Mildenhall, Newport, to name a few and he has been involved with other Teams such as Coventry and more recently Plymouth, then there was the young American touring Teams put together by Steve Evans and others. Laurence is an ordinary working guy just like you and I who has done his best to try to keep these teams going, yes primarily with other peoples money but had he not tried then the majority of these Teams would have closed down sooner rather than later, Its surely better to have tried and failed then to have not tried at all, he is always willing to give young riders help and assistance to get on in the sport, The other thing that I know about Laurence is that if I contacted him wanted some help with something to do with Speedway he would most likely never say no and that maybe that is his biggest failing if it can be called that. I agree he is probably not the finest team manager that there ever was but thats possibly more to do with budget restrictions than anything else. My final word, It would probably have been easier for Laurence to walk away from Birmingham speedway and let it be consigned to the history books than to have the hassle and ingratitude of some by trying to keep speedway in Birmingham, but NO speedway is in his blood just like you and I, agreed maybe its not his money but no-one forces these people to put money into clubs that are struggling to survive, one thing is for sure Speedway will be the poorer when he finally decides enough is enough. Brilliant post. Without the likes of Laurence and Neil Vatcher and others, there would be no speedway. The closures of clubs is down to circumstances not Laurence who has for the main part, been a manager. To blame Laurence is like blaming Rosco for the closure of Coventry and Swindon or Lee Kilby for his part at Birmingham, Swindon and Eastbourne. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petecc Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Nice to read some posts that are not just about money. We are not all blessed or lucky enough to have earned a fortune of cash to invest into something but, some people can only invest their time. Time isn't always cheap and when given free isn't always noticed. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummies23 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/10/2021 at 9:30 AM, szkocjasid said: Well apparently the following riders aren't wanted by the majority: Auty, Newman, Shanes, Morris & Sedgmen and there's not a lot else out there, it's not easy to pick a team of available riders! Birmingham 2022? Ulrich Ostergaard 7.96 Paco Castagna 5.52 Adam Roynon 5.08 Jack Thomas 4.79 Vinnie Foord 2.00 Josh Warren 2.00 Kai Ward 2.00 Total 29.35 I know this won't be the team, but the point I'm trying to make is that's it's easy to say "no I don't want rider A,B or C" but harder to suggest available replacements, which not many do! 1) Sam masters 2) paco 3) Kyle Newman 4) Ryan Douglas 5) Martin Smolinski 6) Adam Roynon 7) jack Thomas Hopefully we have a team like this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlata prilba Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Brummies23 said: 1) Sam masters 2) paco 3) Kyle Newman 4) Ryan Douglas 5) Martin Smolinski 6) Adam Roynon 7) jack Thomas Hopefully we have a team like this. Forget Roynon he gone to Redcar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xvcjk Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, Brummies23 said: 1) Sam masters 2) paco 3) Kyle Newman 4) Ryan Douglas 5) Martin Smolinski 6) Adam Roynon 7) jack Thomas Hopefully we have a team like this. 3 minutes ago, zlata prilba said: Forget Roynon he gone to Redcar Can also forget Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, Brummies23 said: 1) Sam masters 2) paco 3) Kyle Newman 4) Ryan Douglas 5) Martin Smolinski 6) Adam Roynon 7) jack Thomas Hopefully we have a team like this. Looks very strong, does it fit under the points limit though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Brummies23 said: 1) Sam masters 2) paco 3) Kyle Newman 4) Ryan Douglas 5) Martin Smolinski 6) Adam Roynon 7) jack Thomas Hopefully we have a team like this. If your lucky ,you might have 3 correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Fromafar said: If your lucky ,you might have 3 correct. 3 is wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSL84 Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 9 hours ago, M.D said: 3 is wrong 5 are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Trackerman48 said: 5 are wrong. I was talking about the number 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 12 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Looks very strong, does it fit under the points limit though? Adam at Redcar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSL84 Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 12 hours ago, M.D said: 3 is wrong Sorry MD read it wrong, but five of the riders named will not be there that's for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Trackerman48 said: Sorry MD read it wrong, but five of the riders named will not be there that's for sure. More my mistake, it was a bit cryptic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, M.D said: More my mistake, it was a bit cryptic Or bad grammar, and now you're covering up . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 14 hours ago, M.D said: 3 is wrong Misunderstanding,I think you will be lucky if 3 riders are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 I should have just said Kyle is not at Birmingham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 32 minutes ago, M.D said: I should have just said Kyle is not at Birmingham If not @ Birmingham could well be Oxford or even Poole where he's very popular as the local lad. One thing with Kyle is you get 100% commitment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ghosty said: If not @ Birmingham could well be Oxford or even Poole where he's very popular as the local lad. One thing with Kyle is you get 100% commitment. Kyle was harshly treated by Brummies in 2019 so may not want to come back. On his day a third heat leader but mainly a very good number 4 rider for anyone in CL. Oxford might be a good shout. Can still improve his average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 47 minutes ago, HGould said: Kyle was harshly treated by Brummies in 2019 so may not want to come back. On his day a third heat leader but mainly a very good number 4 rider for anyone in CL. Oxford might be a good shout. Can still improve his average. As it’s a new promotion I can’t see why he wouldn’t return. you definitely get plenty of effort but he seems to have found his level now. I think there was a huge level of expectancy when he scored 19 pits at Wolverhampton in the play off final. still a very dependable engine room type of rider that every team needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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