secsy1 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 Interesting reading about several riders have not been paid for matches ridden in for Birmingham during the 2021 season. Surely these riders deserve payment, be it from the bond with the SCB/BSPA or sale of assets (if any) left at Birmingham prior to any proposed sale of the club. Very disappointed that this is still occurring and hopefully every rider at both Birmingham and Eastbourne get their due monies before Christmas. We all live and hope! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) i agree , it is sad .but the people to blame are the promotion of clubs who dont cut their cloth accordingly ! there are only a handful of clubs that can run their club and pay out large sums of money to riders . good luck to them . if ride X gets large sums per point , then their mates want the same . we all know a good team will attract bigger followers , but in time the followers get board and find something else to do like fishing , bowls or even budgie jumping .lol. you dont need a million pound team the get entertainment for your crowd .so the promotions are to blame for thinking they need x amount of fans through the door to make it pay . last off all , its the local fans who dont attend home meetings because the next home meeting is against a much weaker side , they give it a miss and before long they stop coming . support YOUR team , because one day it will be gone . PS the 70s were great , riders had a first job to go to and speedway was a hobby/sport that gave them bread n butter money .good days lost forever IMO. look on the Scunthorpe Scorpions 2022 thread . page 27 , first post . SAYSIT ALL REALLY sad Edited December 4, 2021 by jenga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 Is that why Workinton closed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, tyretrax said: Is that why Workinton closed? has there ever been speedway @ Workinton ? i honestly cannot remember speedway @ that place ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, jenga said: has there ever been speedway @ Workinton ? i honestly cannot remember speedway @ that place ! Says the guy who can't spell History. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 Yow cor kritisyze spellung on the Burnigum syte! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, tyretrax said: Says the guy who can't spell History. yes eye can .hisstory .there ya go . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 15 minutes ago, jenga said: yes eye can .hisstory .there ya go . Nice of you to post your photo too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 2 hours ago, tyretrax said: Nice of you to post your photo too. never heard that before . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejam Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Lefty said: Yow cor kritisyze spellung on the Burnigum syte! Ay it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 4 hours ago, tyretrax said: Says the guy who can't spell History. H18TORY is spelt like this up in wukinton marra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Lefty said: Yow cor kritisyze spellung on the Burnigum syte! Secund that, now one and I mean now one can spell or speak proper outsyde of birmingum. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 22 minutes ago, Neila said: H18TORY is spelt like this up in wukinton marra Jenga will tell you off, Wukinton never had speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 30 minutes ago, tyretrax said: Jenga will tell you off, Wukinton never had speedway. Jenga knows nowt !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 10 hours ago, jenga said: or even budgie jumping why leave it at that, go the full whack and include cockatiels as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Neila said: Jenga knows nowt !! who is nowt ? t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 Lakeside owed thousands to several riders too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 10 hours ago, Jonny the spud said: Lakeside owed thousands to several riders too There have been a lot of dodgy characters in the sport over the years.Many riders never got the pay they were promised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 The big (& grossly unfair)anomaly regarding riders being paid/not paid is that riders would be in an immediate breach of contract should they refuse to ride because of not being paid for previous work (meetings) done with the consequence of not being allowed to ride elsewhere in UK. Promoters however have no reciprocal action taken against them for not paying their workers/contractors “on time” Whilst clearly this set of circumstances is so that “The show must go on” (which wouldn’t happen if riders withhold their services) it seems appropriate that something along the lines of rules being set where riders must be paid no later than (say) 10 days past the due date and if that payment is not made then the BSPA makes the payment from the Bond fund. The delinquent promotion then has to reimburse the fund within a set period time with interest or face further sanctions. Frankly the only promotions who would be unable to live with this type of agreement are those who are in reality unviable in the first place and need to face the consequences sooner rather than later so the sport has a realistic financial & moral operating base to work within. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Central Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, 1 valve said: The big (& grossly unfair)anomaly regarding riders being paid/not paid is that riders would be in an immediate breach of contract should they refuse to ride because of not being paid for previous work (meetings) done with the consequence of not being allowed to ride elsewhere in UK. Promoters however have no reciprocal action taken against them for not paying their workers/contractors “on time” Whilst clearly this set of circumstances is so that “The show must go on” (which wouldn’t happen if riders withhold their services) it seems appropriate that something along the lines of rules being set where riders must be paid no later than (say) 10 days past the due date and if that payment is not made then the BSPA makes the payment from the Bond fund. The delinquent promotion then has to reimburse the fund within a set period time with interest or face further sanctions. Frankly the only promotions who would be unable to live with this type of agreement are those who are in reality unviable in the first place and need to face the consequences sooner rather than later so the sport has a realistic financial & moral operating base to work within. Great idea there. It is also not in a riders interests to make a big issue out of non payment of "wages" since they may be overlooked for a team place in the following season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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