Sir Sidney Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 I can't see these two in the list above: Aldershot raceway - although not sure if there is room inside the stock car track for a speedway track Smallfield raceway - near Gatwick airport, right next to M23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydog Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 7 hours ago, Sir Sidney said: I can't see these two in the list above: Aldershot raceway - although not sure if there is room inside the stock car track for a speedway track Smallfield raceway - near Gatwick airport, right next to M23 Aldershot would be ridiculously small if it were inside the tarmac track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlivefrankie Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 Valley Greyhound Stadium Valley Greyhound Stadium - Valley Greyhounds 410 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuxtonTiger Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 19 minutes ago, longlivefrankie said: Valley Greyhound Stadium Valley Greyhound Stadium - Valley Greyhounds 410 yards Looks about 200yds from the nearest housing estate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 13 hours ago, skydog said: Aldershot would be ridiculously small if it were inside the tarmac track We'll have to ask Spedeworth to convert from tarmac to shale then! I'll ask Santa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) On 12/6/2021 at 6:56 AM, skydog said: Aldershot would be ridiculously small if it were inside the tarmac track Aldershot used to run speedway at the old stadium, but it didn't last. Not sure how many seasons it ran for. With the army camp being there, I would have thought it would have been well attended? Arena Essex/Lakeside was a small track. Aldershot say their track is 350 metres. Arena Essex was 252 metres. Edited December 7, 2021 by Ray Stadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydog Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Ray Stadia said: Aldershot used to run speedway at the old stadium, but it didn't last. Not sure how many seasons it ran for. With the army camp being there, I would have thought it would have been well attended? Arena Essex/Lakeside was a small track. Aldershot say their track is 350 metres. Arena Essex was 252 metres. If its 350m it certainly doesn't look it! I dont know what being inside it would make the length of a Speedway track, but as someone who believes small tracks arent great, and having been to Aldershot, I'll stand by my original comment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 On 12/7/2021 at 6:07 PM, skydog said: If its 350m it certainly doesn't look it! I dont know what being inside it would make the length of a Speedway track, but as someone who believes small tracks arent great, and having been to Aldershot, I'll stand by my original comment! Having raced there, putting a speedway track inside would be impossible I totally agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 1:15 PM, JohnHyam said: Isn't Brafield back under another name and the venue owned by Spedeworth Motorsport who also promote oval car racing there? NIR, Northampton International raceway. Was named after a energy drink company for a couple of seasons a number of years ago now. It does also get referred to as Northampton Shaleway these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted December 26, 2021 Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 5:37 PM, Deano said: In the speedway world if a single promotion isn’t prepared to take a risk and a punt on their life savings, no new tracks like at Burton will appear. If though a collective BSPL shared promotion could be agreed and take 50% of the start up costs, more tracks might appear. I've said for a while that the BSPZzz should adopt the American sports business model, and become the sports promotion organisation that oversees all clubs. Existing promoters would be co-shareholders according to their contribution into the pot and "franchisees" for their original teams. If that were to happen then the risks would be shared, as would the rewards. Not to mention the abolishment of self centred attitudes. That said, I'd still venture to guess that finding a venue these days, is a whole site easier than finding 7 or 8 additional riders to make up a competitive team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welwyn Posted December 27, 2021 Report Share Posted December 27, 2021 17 hours ago, uk_martin said: I've said for a while that the BSPZzz should adopt the American sports business model, and become the sports promotion organisation that oversees all clubs. Existing promoters would be co-shareholders according to their contribution into the pot and "franchisees" for their original teams. If that were to happen then the risks would be shared, as would the rewards. Not to mention the abolishment of self centred attitudes. That said, I'd still venture to guess that finding a venue these days, is a whole site easier than finding 7 or 8 additional riders to make up a competitive team. Always thought that is what I would try and do if I won the £100m+ jackpot on the Euromillions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted December 27, 2021 Report Share Posted December 27, 2021 19 hours ago, uk_martin said: I've said for a while that the BSPZzz should adopt the American sports business model, and become the sports promotion organisation that oversees all clubs. Existing promoters would be co-shareholders according to their contribution into the pot and "franchisees" for their original teams. If that were to happen then the risks would be shared, as would the rewards. Not to mention the abolishment of self centred attitudes. That said, I'd still venture to guess that finding a venue these days, is a whole site easier than finding 7 or 8 additional riders to make up a competitive team. The perfect scenario for a sport at this level, and ran like Speedway is.. And has been that way for many, many years.. Due to the way it is ran, winning a title gains very little reward of any distinction in regards to financial attainment, wider publicity, and kudos... And that isnt going to change anytime soon... So just ensure all tracks are supported to be viable and competitive and then, hopefully, as the sport gains stability, other tracks can be attracted as and when opportunity arises... With each of them being given support to hit the ground running... You can have "poor teams" in major sports as there will always be a 'Manchester United' or a 'New York Yankees' to keep the sport at the forefront of peoples awareness.. Teams whose own millions of followers will always keep the sponsors and media flooding in to follow it.. Speedway should just concentrate on building every teams' core supporter base by working together.. 18 teams all getting 500 more a week is 9000 extra punters following the sport.. No individual team will grow their business by anywhere near that number, even if going unbeaten all year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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