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On 3/29/2022 at 8:57 AM, oleoleole said:

Dan Thompson was there, fully kitted out.

He was.   This seemed very strange as he wasn't riding in the meeting, but was walking around the pits in his kevlars. 

At a push I can perhaps understand Sheffield wanting him in the pits to watch and learn, but it seemed very odd that he was wearing his kevlars even though he was only there as a spectator.

 

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47 minutes ago, PotteringAround said:

He was.   This seemed very strange as he wasn't riding in the meeting, but was walking around the pits in his kevlars. 

At a push I can perhaps understand Sheffield wanting him in the pits to watch and learn, but it seemed very odd that he was wearing his kevlars even though he was only there as a spectator.

 

Dan could have taken a ride, particularly a better scenario if a Reserve had got injured in Heat 2.

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45 minutes ago, arnieg said:

Under what rule? I think you've dreamt this.

The No.8 rule when using R/R.

I must admit that I was also factoring in what I had heard pre-season about the No.8 being present at a track, even without R/R.

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2 hours ago, Gambo said:

Dan could have taken a ride, particularly a better scenario if a Reserve had got injured in Heat 2.

No he couldn't.    Teams can use either the rising star or No.8 on a match-by-match basis, but they can't swap during a match.     Once the teams had chosen Connor Mountain and Tom Brennan to ride at No.7, there was no way Dan Thompson or COnnor Bailey could be involved.

1 hour ago, RS50 said:

Sheffield were using rider replacement, so presumably Dan could have been the additional rider allowed in these circumstances.

No.   The additional rider (AR) has to have a Championship average not exceeding 3.00.   Dan Thompson is too high to be the AR.

 

46 minutes ago, arnieg said:

Under what rule? I think you've dreamt this.

Definitely dreamt it.

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Chris Louis said last week at the Ipswich Pre Season function that No.8 (Danyon) had to be named in the match team declaration and could take a ride for any of the 1-7 for any reason. 

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10 hours ago, Tom Thumb said:

Chris Louis said last week at the Ipswich Pre Season function that No.8 (Danyon) had to be named in the match team declaration and could take a ride for any of the 1-7 for any reason. 

Can you quote the relevant regulation because I couldn't find it anywhere in the regulations.

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11 minutes ago, arnieg said:

Can you quote the relevant regulation because I couldn't find it anywhere in the regulations.

Has this any relevance

Amendment to 2022 Regulations 012.4.3 Rider Replacement (RR) g) Premiership teams can nominate their own named Rising Star or a rider with a Championship average of 3.00 or below who is not declared in another Premiership 1-8 as an additional rider. (AR) Issued 29/03/22 by the SCB Office. 

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38 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

Has this any relevance

Amendment to 2022 Regulations 012.4.3 Rider Replacement (RR) g) Premiership teams can nominate their own named Rising Star or a rider with a Championship average of 3.00 or below who is not declared in another Premiership 1-8 as an additional rider. (AR) Issued 29/03/22 by the SCB Office. 

Ammendments already. :( 

But I still see nothing that enables the AR/no8 to replace a reserve in a programmed ride.

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7 hours ago, Roger Jacobs said:

There's nothing there about being allowed to be used during a match, other than when R/R is in operation.

Correct. That response from Louis was in direct response to someone asking that very question. Unless using R/R, the number 8 would have to be named in the 1-7 for the meeting to get rides. 

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On 5/12/2022 at 5:32 PM, RS50 said:

Anyone know anything more definite about this league? Will it actually happen this year? Any fixtures, or squads named?

 

On 5/21/2022 at 12:28 AM, szkocjasid said:

I was wondering the same thing, have any matches been raced yet?

Just checked BSPL website and found some matches have been run (much to my pleasant surprise). However, did look at racecard for one match, and found both teams used rider replacement (hardly in the spirit of the league), and also, no dates for fixtures not yet raced.

Surely by now dates should be agreed, or a statement saying teams have pulled out of the e.

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So it seems the Premiership Junior League has been forgotten about. The Southern section only completed 2 out of the scheduled 6 matches & no final has been raced.

It's a pretty poor effort when you consider clubs only had to host TWO six heat junior matches this season but half the teams couldn't even do that! 

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13 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

So it seems the Premiership Junior League has been forgotten about. The Southern section only completed 2 out of the scheduled 6 matches & no final has been raced.

It's a pretty poor effort when you consider clubs only had to host TWO six heat junior matches this season but half the teams couldn't even do that! 

Most fans knew it was lip service to development and a waste of time and space, this season just confirms what we knew last year.

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On 10/29/2022 at 1:03 PM, gazzac said:

Most fans knew it was lip service to development and a waste of time and space, this season just confirms what we knew last year.

The aim was to break the mdsl teams who were classed as ghost teams and allow the league chairman's club (who has got the facilities) to run an amateur league using ghost teams. 

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