chunky Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, steve roberts said: As a matter of interest do ethnic minorities attend football matches? Well, seeing that that 3/4 of the players now are black... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 diversity takes generations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, chunky said: Okay... I for one love a multi-cultural society; I welcome diversity. However, while there is a constant push for diversity these days, it shouldn't be expected, and it certainly shouldn't be forced. There are just some things that attract certain races/nationalities/cultures/genders, and some that don't. We have to accept that. Agree entirely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, chunky said: Well, seeing that that 3/4 of the players now are black... I was just curious as I don't follow football now but with having a goodly proportion of black players competing is that reflected by those watching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, steve roberts said: I was just curious as I don't follow football now but with having a goodly proportion of black players competing is that reflected by those watching? I do see quite a various crwd when i have watched Premier League lately. Also see a good few Japanese or Korean fans in the crowd when one of their countrymen have signed for a team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 19 minutes ago, chunky said: Yeah, I remember a photo of a young black kid with Bob Dugard; think his name was Paul, but I wouldn't guarantee it... Are you sure it wasn't Kevin? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, iris123 said: I do see quite a various crwd when i have watched Premier League lately. Also see a good few Japanese or Korean fans in the crowd when one of their countrymen have signed for a team Exactly. When I was gowing up, British football was played by the British. Italian football was played by the Italians etc. Now, all leagues are populated by all nationalities. As far as black players, I remember the early ones like Bert Johanneson, Clyde Best, and Adi Coker. As ch958 says, diversity takes generations, which is why there are so many black English players now. Having said that, black people have NEVER really shown any great interest in motor sports in general, let alone speedway. Edited November 19, 2021 by chunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sotonian said: Are you sure it wasn't Kevin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, chunky said: Exactly. When I was gowing up, British football was played by the British. Italian football was played by the Italians etc. Now, all leagues are populated by all nationalities. As far as black players, I remember the early ones like Bert Johanneson, Clyde Best, and Adi Coker. As ch958 says, diversity takes generations, which is why there are so many black English players now. Having said that, black people have NEVER really shown any great interested in motor sports in general, let alone speedway. Only seen a handful of non white riders. Thomas Sörensen from Denmark was one who was around a while. Saw a young Chinese looking kid from Sweden once and i think there is a black youngster in Germany 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, iris123 said: Only seen a handful of non white riders. Thomas Sörensen from Denmark was one who was around a while. Saw a young Chinese looking kid from Sweden once and i think there is a black youngster in Germany Lewis Hamilton from F1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, chunky said: Exactly. When I was gowing up, British football was played by the British. Italian football was played by the Italians etc. Now, all leagues are populated by all nationalities. As far as black players, I remember the early ones like Bert Johanneson, Clyde Best, and Adi Coker. As ch958 says, diversity takes generations, which is why there are so many black English players now. Having said that, black people have NEVER really shown any great interest in motor sports in general, let alone speedway. Adi Coker...now there's a name from the past! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 Only "person of colour" in speedway (I think that is the preferred term now) I remember, was the late Paul Muchene who rode at Arena Essex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, iris123 said: Only seen a handful of non white riders. Thomas Sörensen from Denmark was one who was around a while. Saw a young Chinese looking kid from Sweden once and i think there is a black youngster in Germany Are you thinking of Peter Clement (Denmark).? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 4 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said: Only "person of colour" in speedway (I think that is the preferred term now) I remember, was the late Paul Muchene who rode at Arena Essex. Really? You seem to have missed Antonio Lindback starting racing in the early 2000's and going on to appear in the Speedway GP series in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2019 and 2020... Also, not sure about the "person of colour" categorisation...I might be out of touch with preferred terms....Would that include the crowd favourite at the Speedway of Nations this year, Philip Hellström Bängs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 59 minutes ago, HenryW said: Also, not sure about the "person of colour" categorisation...I might be out of touch with preferred terms.. Well, it is a preferred term here in the US - even though calling someone "coloured" is a complete no-no! Of course, despite not being able to use the term "coloured", the people are protected by the NAACP - the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 10 hours ago, Tsunami said: Lewis Hamilton from F1 Also the US NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace, who was in some controversy this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, arnieg said: Are you thinking of Peter Clement (Denmark).? I wasn't, but knw of Peter as well The rider i was thinking of is Noah Moos from Denmark. Saw him riding in Ludwigslust a few years back Edited November 20, 2021 by iris123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 There was a rider at Belle Vue a few yearrs back called Glenn Hornby who was black/mixed race. I remember reading a story in Speedway Star about him getting racial abuse from fans when he was in the pits during meetings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 20 minutes ago, Grachan said: There was a rider at Belle Vue a few yearrs back called Glenn Hornby who was black/mixed race. I remember reading a story in Speedway Star about him getting racial abuse from fans when he was in the pits during meetings. I was just about to post Glenn Hornby... I always thought he was a half decent rider, not sure why he packed it in, didn't he have a spell with Long Eaton I seem to recall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted November 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, iris123 said: Also the US NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace, who was in some controversy this year There is also a black very good American moto X rider, James Stewart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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