British Speedway statement

[gmarsbar2]

22 hours ago, spin king said:

Disappointed to see that the Championship clubs have dumped the Rising Star programme.

 

For me riders need to be able to progress through the league and to do this the programme has to run through all of the leagues.

So it is looking like only 6 teams in the Premiership

So with one Rising Star for each team these are the riders that should be the 6 Rising Star,

Leon Flint

Tom Brennan

Jordan Palin

Anders Rowe

Drew Kemp

Dan Thompson

I would then like to see reserve list, these riders will cover Guest appearances for the above riders, retirements or riders dropped.

Dan Gilkes

Joe Thompson

Jason Edwards

Henry Atkins

Jack Parkinson Blackburn

Connor Bailey 

1 hour ago, Skidder1 said:

What? No Danyon Hume?

Danyon Hume is 24.

Other than JPB (who I wouldn't have on the list) the others are all under 21. Kyle Bickley would be a better alternate.

 

 

[Skodaman]

22 hours ago, lisa-colette said:

I'm glad to hear there as some sort of AGM, as I'm sure I read in the local press that Danny Ford said he wasn't going to announce any signings til after it. So thought I was going to have to turn up in March/April and see who comes to the tapes! 

There is a difference between signing and announcing names! A might have already signed 7 riders but not announced the names!

[LisaColette]

1 hour ago, Skodaman said:

There is a difference between signing and announcing names! A might have already signed 7 riders but not announced the names!

That's what I mean though! If they don't announce them, then I'm not going to know who they are until they are at the tapes. It was just a joke as people were saying there was no AGM now and he said he wasn't going to announce any signings before it! Even though I think there is an AGM for a day only.

But today they are saying probably announce in a few weeks/next month.

[JamesHarris]

On 11/11/2021 at 7:57 AM, MattB said:

These decisions are official with the traditional AGM no longer in place.

 

Because British speedway is now an effective dictatorship run by a two bob scrap metal merchant supported by a few stoogie minions who aspire to fill his boots one day. Fair play to Godfrey. 16 years ago he set up a track in the middle of a field with no basic facilities. Now he holds all the power

 

[HenryW]

On 11/11/2021 at 6:33 PM, Mr Blobby said:

Embarrass themselves every year at the BSPA. 5 year plan for the RS pretty sure every man and their dog could’ve told you last year this would only last a season and well there we go scrapped already. 
 

It would be funny if it wasn't so ridiculous.
So many times we have heard about a 5 year plan, long term plan, etc and every time it is binned quickly.
I know that some might not have liked the introduction of the RS system, but to bring it in as a 5 year plan and ditch it after 1 year just makes the sport look completely stupid...especially when it was something that actually seemed to be useful for the development of riders in the UK.
I'll admit that I didn't really understand the star system from this year, but a move to something like a star for each year in the league could have been a good way to go....but, nah, just bin the whole thing.
Encouraging and giving an advantage to teams that actually developed riders seemed like a good idea to me....Could it see the best young Brit riders being paid more than their average was normally worth? Yes. Is that a bad thing for developing the young riders? In my opinion, NO! 
There aren't enough good young Brit riders to go around and it's unfair if a team has a special talent? Tough...Get out and encourage kids to try speedway if you want to win the league rather than waiting for them to appear and fall in your lap or signing young foreign riders.
 

[HenryW]

On 11/11/2021 at 1:19 PM, Ghosty said:

Most riders ride in both leagues so therefore have REAL averages for both leagues, so were or how does the conversion rate apply?

Most, but not all...6 teams in the Premiership, 11 teams in the Championship...Both had 7 rider teams. All are not being fitted into both leagues.
Still a bunch of riders that were Championship only.

[Najjer]

So basically “all is well here, more of the same please!”

Except it’s a shocker to get rid of the rising star scheme in the championship. Although I don’t know why I’m surprised, I just don’t get it one little bit.

I’ve said it many times but it should also be 6 man teams. Time and time again there is always a rider shortage so limit the number of riders needing to be found in the first place!

[bruno]

Should be one league 5/6 man teams. I think Denmark is 5 man teams. All riders get more rides so earn more money so don't need 2 teams. Something radical needs changing because current system doesn't work. Not enough riders so guests are constantly needed which makes the sport a joke

[ch958]

12 minutes ago, bruno said:

Should be one league 5/6 man teams. I think Denmark is 5 man teams. All riders get more rides so earn more money so don't need 2 teams. Something radical needs changing because current system doesn't work. Not enough riders so guests are constantly needed which makes the sport a joke

they know this, they've known it for some time. We all know it. And yet....

[phillwhitewasmad]

17 minutes ago, ch958 said:

they know this, they've known it for some time. We all know it. And yet....

And yet the big 6 don't want it that's the boys club that needs looking at if speedway is to progress 

[arnieg]

6 hours ago, HenryW said:

Most, but not all...6 teams in the Premiership, 11 teams in the Championship...Both had 7 rider teams. All are not being fitted into both leagues.
Still a bunch of riders that were Championship only.

And the ones with just a CL average would be on big time bargain averages if signed in the PL. Auty, Aarnio, Wethers, Sam Jensen would all be good value reserves, but Kye Thomson would be my top choice.

Edited November 13, 2021 by arnieg

[bruno]

It seems there will be premiership fillers next year which means seeing the same riders again and again. Like a fair few I suspect ,I will be picking my meetings next season. It would be great to see Glasgow, Redcar , Oxford etc . It just seems madness to me to keep peddling something that obviously isn't really working

[SteveLyric2]

2 hours ago, bruno said:

It seems there will be premiership fillers next year which means seeing the same riders again and again. Like a fair few I suspect ,I will be picking my meetings next season. It would be great to see Glasgow, Redcar , Oxford etc . It just seems madness to me to keep peddling something that obviously isn't really working

Why would club promoters (ie the BSPL) vote for something that 'obviously isn't really working'?

If as is often claimed, they only have 'self-interest' at heart then surely it follows that they must - in the main - be relatively happy with finances, attendances and the status quo?!

Edited November 13, 2021 by Skidder1

[LisaColette]

Obvious to fans but not obvious to anyone who has their head stuck in the sand?? 

[mikebv]

4 hours ago, phillwhitewasmad said:

And yet the big 6 don't want it that's the boys club that needs looking at if speedway is to progress 

Spot on..

However...

Those words "big 6" are as classic a misnomer as ever written.. 

Stockport County can get as near as damn it in one match what six matches collectively in a week in the Premier League can deliver..

And they are in level five of the Football League structure.. 

It's a tiny, tiny, sport, yet it seems some still have delusions that what they are running has some major relevance, meaning and impact...

Unfortunatley due to the way they run it, it has none of the above..

[IronScorpion]

On ‎11‎/‎11‎/‎2021 at 6:33 PM, Mr Blobby said:

Embarrass themselves every year at the BSPA. 5 year plan for the RS pretty sure every man and their dog could’ve told you last year this would only last a season and well there we go scrapped already. 
 

 

On ‎11‎/‎11‎/‎2021 at 10:43 PM, topsoil said:

Should have introduced a Lucky Loser like Poland. They know how to do things right.

Yes, Poland have a system where U21 Polish riders are reserves & stay there irrespective of their success.

Smektala, Chugunov, Drabik & Miskowiak to name a few.

[Fortythirtyeight]

7 hours ago, phillwhitewasmad said:

And yet the big 6 don't want it that's the boys club that needs looking at if speedway is to progress 

So that’s Buster x 2, Bates, CVS, Louis, and Smith ( who we understand has tried to rattle the top table ) .As Godfrey was Busters right hand man and supporter , Bates has power in both divisions and the newest promoters don’t get a vote for 3 years, how do you think you can break up the boys club?

[topaz325]

Quote from a Belle vue programme this season " The current structure is not sustainable, and in my opinion has never been sustainable.We have a great sport and in my view the solution is simple.We have to create a structure with independent management and a League format where the first division and the second division has clear delineation"

 

AS . CEO.

[phillwhitewasmad]

26 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

So that’s Buster x 2, Bates, CVS, Louis, and Smith ( who we understand has tried to rattle the top table ) .As Godfrey was Busters right hand man and supporter , Bates has power in both divisions and the newest promoters don’t get a vote for 3 years, how do you think you can break up the boys club?

You can't 

[Hawk127]

If a sport was crying out to be reinvented and those in charge show some imagination this was what speedway 2022 should have been about in order to excite the existing punters and attract new interest from those who have drifted away as well as tempting first timers to come and watch.

Instead you have the same tired routine and the top tier with just six teams racing each other maybe two, three or four times in a season of fixture fits and starts with the summer months probably being wasted with a sparse list of team matches interspersed with GP’s and World Cup type fixtures. 

Will the play offs be held in early September and completed mid month, no chance, they will drag on into October despite the lack of teams. How you can make a season interesting with just six teams is anyone’s guess.

Sad that speedway has got to this stage and that those in charge are neither understanding how the market has changed (Poland is an example of what needs and can be done in terms of presentation) nor acknowledging that it is no longer what it was in the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s as a spectator sport. The bikes have changed, the skill sets are different but the stadia are awful (not much can be done as most clubs don’t own them) but the presentation and content as well as offering value money is in the hands of the club owners/promoters.

Unfortunately these custodians of the sport continually ignore those frustrated fans who so desperately want the sport to return to its glory days but that is never going to happen as long as you have no independent body overseeing the sport and you do not have someone in charge with vision to want to take it to another level.