Jump to content
British Speedway Forum

World U21 championship 2022 GP 2 3rd round Torun Friday September 30th


Recommended Posts

wouldn't be surprised to see the 3 wilcards come from the Swedish qualifier, choice from Rew, Brennan, Hellstrom-Bangs, Basso.

tough qualifier that was compared to the others

Link to comment
Share on other sites

SGP2 LINE-UP (WITH RIDER NUMBERS):

196 Kevin Juhl Pedersen (Denmark)

2 Francis Gusts (Latvia)

201 Jan Kvěch (Czech Republic)

717 Daniel Klíma (Czech Republic)

43 Casper Henriksson (Sweden)

108 Mateusz Swidnicki (Poland)

842 Mateusz Cierniak (Poland)

515 Jakub Miśkowiak (Poland)

408 Jonas Knudsen (Denmark)

47 Wiktor Lampart (Poland)

505 Wiktor Przyjemski (Poland)

44 Petr Chlupac (Czech Republic)

281 Timi Salonen (Finland)

92 Benjamin Basso (Denmark)

118 Gustav Grahn (Sweden)

 

SGP2 SUBSTITUTE RIDERS:

27 Tom Brennan (Great Britain)

127 Keynan Rew (Australia)

33 Nörick Blödorn (Germany)

38 Ernest Matjusonoks (Latvia)

111 Carlos Eber Ampugnani (Argentina)


 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

52 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

Strange choice.IMO

Now if someone said it was to lure German fans to stay the weekend, I’d believe it…

Cos they did the exact same thing about 20 years ago when Gerd Riss was the wild card in a gp.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 hours ago, f-s-p said:

Now if someone said it was to lure German fans to stay the weekend, I’d believe it…

Cos they did the exact same thing about 20 years ago when Gerd Riss was the wild card in a gp.

It’s all about the money, money, money. Kercheng!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Attendance at Cardiff for the GP2 event will be poor.

No British, Australian or American representation.

If The Team GB set up is so professional and is pushing the sport and riders forward, why did no one qualify?

All the talent is being coached out of them and pushed in a direction to failure.

Just remember a lot of our highest sports personnel have previously stated this,

Link to comment
Share on other sites

54 minutes ago, secsy1 said:

1. Attendance at Cardiff for the GP2 event will be poor.

2. No British, Australian or American representation.

3. If The Team GB set up is so professional and is pushing the sport and riders forward, why did no one qualify?

4. All the talent is being coached out of them and pushed in a direction to failure.

Just remember a lot of our highest sports personnel have previously stated this,

1. Was always gonna be poor and personally I think it's a stupid idea to have an U21 final at that (expensive) venue.

2. There will be a ACU licensed wild card and two reserves for the meeting

3. They were riding in a track they had no or little experince from. Gislaved especially is rubbish. Just because you can ride Wolves or Berwick dont mean you can qualify from a continental track.

4. Dont think so, U just need to get out more to ride the tracks that host the qualifiers.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, secsy1 said:

Attendance at Cardiff for the GP2 event will be poor.

No British, Australian or American representation.

If The Team GB set up is so professional and is pushing the sport and riders forward, why did no one qualify?

All the talent is being coached out of them and pushed in a direction to failure.

Just remember a lot of our highest sports personnel have previously stated this,

Please expand.

I think Brennan can count himself unfortunate to be in the hardest qualifier as he'd have breezed through the others. He looks the real deal but unfortunately Kemp, Rowe, Palin, Bickley and Flint don't appear to be fully realising their potential like many before them. It's a familiar tale.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, secsy1 said:

Attendance at Cardiff for the GP2 event will be poor.

No British, Australian or American representation.

If The Team GB set up is so professional and is pushing the sport and riders forward, why did no one qualify?

All the talent is being coached out of them and pushed in a direction to failure.

Just remember a lot of our highest sports personnel have previously stated this,

3-4 K i would expect( don’t forget the GP ticket holders are admitted free.

point 4 and 5 is just plainly ridiculous. Things have changed for the better. Opportunities have grown with the Polish Extraleague U 24 league.

Our youngsters are gaining more experience in the FIM Europe events which we were never really interested in- but it takes time and the results will be seen in the future.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, f-s-p said:

1. Was always gonna be poor and personally I think it's a stupid idea to have an U21 final at that (expensive) venue.

2. There will be a ACU licensed wild card and two reserves for the meeting

3. They were riding in a track they had no or little experince from. Gislaved especially is rubbish. Just because you can ride Wolves or Berwick dont mean you can qualify from a continental track.

4. Dont think so, U just need to get out more to ride the tracks that host the qualifiers.

1. Totally agree, waste of money, more suited to Belle Vue.

2. That is why it would be better suited and supported at a smaller less expensive venue.

3. Apart from Sam Hagon, they all have extensive European experience.

4. They have been doing.  

54 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

Please expand.

I think Brennan can count himself unfortunate to be in the hardest qualifier as he'd have breezed through the others. He looks the real deal but unfortunately Kemp, Rowe, Palin, Bickley and Flint don't appear to be fully realising their potential like many before them. It's a familiar tale.

Can you expand why?

52 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

3-4 K i would expect( don’t forget the GP ticket holders are admitted free.

point 4 and 5 is just plainly ridiculous. Things have changed for the better. Opportunities have grown with the Polish Extraleague U 24 league.

Our youngsters are gaining more experience in the FIM Europe events which we were never really interested in- but it takes time and the results will be seen in the future.

Ridiculous, read the bottom line.

The other riders have little experience on the qualifying tracks and are similar ages, but qualified.

All excuses answered.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, secsy1 said:

1. Totally agree, waste of money, more suited to Belle Vue.

2. That is why it would be better suited and supported at a smaller less expensive venue.

3. Apart from Sam Hagon, they all have extensive European experience.

4. They have been doing.  

Can you expand why?

Ridiculous, read the bottom line.

The other riders have little experience on the qualifying tracks and are similar ages, but qualified.

All excuses answered.

I will once you've explained your coaching remark. Just interested to know by who and in what way.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

23 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

Please expand.

I think Brennan can count himself unfortunate to be in the hardest qualifier as he'd have breezed through the others. He looks the real deal but unfortunately Kemp, Rowe, Palin, Bickley and Flint don't appear to be fully realising their potential like many before them. It's a familiar tale.

If you read my post yesterday at 08:42 AM, think you will find the answer.

But what about your remarks?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, secsy1 said:

If you read my post yesterday at 08:42 AM, think you will find the answer.

But what about your remarks?

So you have stated that 'all the talent is being coached out of them' but aren't prepared to say how, by who, where when etc etc. 

IMO the five riders I've named showed huge potential at 15 and 16 but haven't really kicked on since, and I'm using Lambert, Bewley & Brennan as recent examples of the benchmark. Perhaps our expectations are too high in the first place but when riders show such potential in their first couple of seasons I think we allowed to expect them to be decent regular scorers in our leagues two or three seasons later and to be competitive in World U21 events. I understand riders can develop late but we don't see enough of our youngsters turn into internationally competitive riders IMO. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Draw for round 1 

1 108 Mateusz Świdnicki PZM Poland

2 16 Celina Liebmann DMSB Germany

3 92 Benjamin Basso DMU Denmark

4 43 Casper Henriksson SVEMO Sweden

5 842 Mateusz Cierniak PZM Poland

6 2 Francis Gusts LaMSF Latvia

7 515 Jakub Miśkowiak PZM Poland

8 505 Wiktor Przyjemski PZM Poland

9 44 Petr Chlupac ACCR Czech Republic

10 201 Jan Kvech ACCR Czech Republic

11 47 Wiktor Lampart PZM Poland

12 196 Kevin Juhl Pedersen DMU Denmark

13 118 Gustav Grahn SVEMO Sweden

14 281 Timi Salonen SML Finland

15 408 Jonas Knudsen DMU Denmark

16 717 Daniel Klíma ACCR Czech Republic

17 17 Matous Kamenik ACCR Czech Republic

18 18 Bruno Belan ACCR Czech Republic

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Privacy Policy