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World U21 championship 2022 GP 2 3rd round Torun Friday September 30th


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There’s a girl wildcard for tonight’s meeting or all three? Really. Seriously. I don’t mean to sound or be sexist though it will come over that way. It’s like  an England ladies footballer getting a place in the mens England lineup. She won’t get near a point and has take a berth from a proper competitor.

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5 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

There’s a girl wildcard for tonight’s meeting or all three? Really. Seriously. I don’t mean to sound or be sexist though it will come over that way. It’s like  an England ladies footballer getting a place in the mens England lineup. She won’t get near a point and has take a berth from a proper competitor.

Just tonight.Bit of a joke really.

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2 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

For all of you who think Celina Liebmann has been plucked from the crowd to ride- she scored 6 points in the Daugavpils qualifier and has ridden Polish league div 2. Yes she will be highly tried but she can ride a bike !!

 

Yes, she can ride a bike, and I even think she will score a point or two tonight, but she is not really good enough to be in this SGP 2 series, considering others like Tom Brennan, Hellstrom-Bangs etc. do not get the chance. Even over here in Germany, no one really understands why she got the wildcard ahead of a much faster Norick Blodorn. It is only because she is a girl.   

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4 minutes ago, Bavarian said:

Yes, she can ride a bike, and I even think she will score a point or two tonight, but she is not really good enough to be in this SGP 2 series, considering others like Tom Brennan, Hellstrom-Bangs etc. do not get the chance. Even over here in Germany, no one really understands why she got the wildcard ahead of a much faster Norick Blodorn. It is only because she is a girl.   

:D

Of course it is

It is part of the modern world. Money talks

But these sort of things aren't new to speedway.....we have the wc previously and given to riders who failed to qualify and people asked why they got in or why there should even be a wc. Should i mention Chris 'bomber' Harris at this point ?

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25 minutes ago, Bavarian said:

Yes, she can ride a bike, and I even think she will score a point or two tonight, but she is not really good enough to be in this SGP 2 series, considering others like Tom Brennan, Hellstrom-Bangs etc. do not get the chance. Even over here in Germany, no one really understands why she got the wildcard ahead of a much faster Norick Blodorn. It is only because she is a girl.   

Personally I dont think its helpful for women in sport when this happens, we should compete on merit alone when in mixed classed in sports events, but it is the way things are going.

 

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2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Just spent 15 mins looking through and yes, the Swedish round was far stronger than the other rounds. For the FIM to run this series without a single Brit is frankly a disgrace, especially when you consider one of the rounds is Cardiff. Be lucky to get a few hundred there to watch it. Why on Earth not seed one Brit? It’s not as though Brennan for example would be tailed off!

Some of these guys would never be able to hold down a team berth in the Championship.

How do you know so many wouldn't be able to hold their own at Championship Level ?

As you've only just discovered who rode in which qualification round it hardly inspires me with belief in your knowledge of young riders climbing their way up the rankings.

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I think its disgusting the establishment didn't give Tommy B a pick for the series, but thats what it is.

I hope he get the pick at Cardiff to show them what he could have done.

Watching this on D+

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21 minutes ago, Triple.H. said:

How do you know so many wouldn't be able to hold their own at Championship Level ?

As you've only just discovered who rode in which qualification round it hardly inspires me with belief in your knowledge of young riders climbing their way up the rankings.

I follow leagues in Europe. But there’s a few riders in this I am not familiar with. Watching the first 4 heats I can safely say some of these riders would not last in the Championship. 

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1 minute ago, M.D said:

I think its disgusting the establishment didn't give Tommy B a pick for the series, but thats what it is.

I hope he get the pick at Cardiff to show them what he could have done.

Watching this on D+

he'll definitely be WC at Cardiff, but should be in the full series

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Watched 3 Heats half of these are way out of their depth and like Shovlar said they wouldn't hold down a team place in the Championship.

Tom Brennan should've been handed a position when you look at some of the riders in this line-up.

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2 minutes ago, M.D said:

I think its disgusting the establishment didn't give Tommy B a pick for the series, but thats what it is.

I hope he get the pick at Cardiff to show them what he could have done.

Watching this on D+

They want Poles to win it. Take away threats of decent foreigners.

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