Islander15 Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/17/2022 at 12:45 PM, RoundTheBoards said: Do you mean nationality-wise or ability-wise? In terms of nationality I don't know if Luke was born in England or Australia, but he'd qualify as British because his parents are British (being the son of the former Belle Vue and Wolves second-halfer Frank Killeen - known as "Fearless Frank" or "Frank the Fence" depending on how he was going at the time). In terms of ability, I don't know if riding in an Australian State Championship still allows him in the NDL on a 3.00 average. (presumably it must). I meant in terms of nationality. That’s interesting to know thank you. And his ability is irrelevant as anyone can ride NL, there is no minimum standard. On 2/17/2022 at 4:10 PM, mac101 said: Comes in pretty much the same as Connor Bailey has British passport Yes I meant how is he eligible for a British passport. 12 hours ago, szkocjasid said: If true, not sure why Oxford would take him on loan? The purpose of their NL team should be to build an asset base for future Cheetahs riders, not Wolves riders! I wouldn't want to use a rider on loan from a club who he's never ridden for! Oxford need a reasonable team to get thru fans to watch it and it’s a new venture so they were of course starting from scratch. If he’s riding for the Chargers then there’s a clear avenue for him to ride for the Cheetah’s Championship side too which benefits then and obviously could form part of a good future relationship with Wolves if Oxford need any riders in the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 On 2/17/2022 at 4:40 PM, Red Flag said: According to SS Aussie reports he has signed for Wolves and will be loaned to Oxford Unless I am mistaken, wouldn't he need to ride x amount of meetings for Wolves before they can sign him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 19 hours ago, teaboy279 said: Unless I am mistaken, wouldn't he need to ride x amount of meetings for Wolves before they can sign him? Would assume he will ride for Wolves in the Junior League, does NDL count towards been as asset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 19 hours ago, teaboy279 said: Unless I am mistaken, wouldn't he need to ride x amount of meetings for Wolves before they can sign him? Not unless he's signed a contract to be an asset 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 Can someone explain to me the reasoning behind Ben Hopwood's reduction? I'm not doubting the reason, whatever it is. Just want to know why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 7 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Can someone explain to me the reasoning behind Ben Hopwood's reduction? I'm not doubting the reason, whatever it is. Just want to know why He’s missed a few years. I think the bigger surprise is how much of a reduction he got! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Islander15 said: He’s missed a few years. I think the bigger surprise is how much of a reduction he got! Surprised he got such a massive reduction tbh, but I'm sure it was all done fairly I do like Ben, from his days at Newcastle, always giving 100% and claimed a few decent scalps at home, even if he was well out of his depth, good look to the Chargers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) Rumours down Exeter way say Henry Atkins making his Oxford debut at Belle Vue tomorrow, replacing Ben Hopwood. Edited June 2, 2022 by RoundTheBoards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 10 hours ago, RoundTheBoards said: Rumours down Exeter way say Henry Atkins making his Oxford debut at Belle Vue tomorrow, replacing Ben Hopwood. Smart move. It’s unfortunate that Hopwood’s return to the sport didn’t work out but there’s very few riders available now on that average so to pick someone up if Atkins’ quality is impressive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 I am told that Luke Killeen will (at last) receive his passport next week -- does that mean he will now be able to resume his declared position in the Chargers' line-up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 39 minutes ago, crescent girl said: I am told that Luke Killeen will (at last) receive his passport next week -- does that mean he will now be able to resume his declared position in the Chargers' line-up? Good, it will be intriguing to see how he gets on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendonebunching Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 Don't know if I'm missing something here but how was Henry Atkins allowed to guest when he is not in a declared team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Bendonebunching said: Don't know if I'm missing something here but how was Henry Atkins allowed to guest when he is not in a declared team. According to the greensheets Henry is still declared in the Plymouth 1-7 so eligible to guest now his ban is up. Stupidly im guessing he can't be declared in the Oxford side until Plymouth officially release him..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 49 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: According to the greensheets Henry is still declared in the Plymouth 1-7 so eligible to guest now his ban is up. Stupidly im guessing he can't be declared in the Oxford side until Plymouth officially release him..... I was told that is more or less the back story on Wednesday night when he had an after meeting spin at Oxford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 So surprise surprise Henry Atkins look's like he will finish up with the Oxford Chargers, the dilemma now for the Oxford management is what should they do: 1. Have a hot line from team manager to Mike Atkins to get any tactical moves approved. 2. Make Mike Atkins team manager so the team manager can't do anything that "might" upset the blue eyed boy avoiding the need for option 1. 3. Keep Mike Atkins clear of any contact with the boy during the meeting & let Henry succeed or fail on his own merits. All a bit tongue n' check folks, but H & M Atkins have previously let both Somerset & Plymouth down. Mike Atkins is not a bad person - but he's both Henry's best & worst influence. Good luck to Henry on his "predicted" move to Oxford & show everyone what you are capable of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 Just to confirm that Henry was a guest today, which is allowed since he is still part of Plymouth's 1-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 15 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: According to the greensheets Henry is still declared in the Plymouth 1-7 so eligible to guest now his ban is up. Curious situation. Obviously Atkins' original ban for withholding his services is over, but by now accepting a guest booking as a member of the Plymouth 1--7, surely Atkins has acknowledged and accepted his place in the Plymouth 1-7. So having restarted riding, if he doesn't turn up for the next Plymouth match (having now acknowledged his place in their 1-7 and used it to take a guest booking) then he should get another ban for withholding his services again? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, PotteringAround said: Curious sit Obviously Atkins' original ban for withholding his services is over, but by now accepting a guest booking as a member of the Plymouth 1--7, surely Atkins has acknowledged and accepted his place in the Plymouth 1-7. So having restarted riding, if he doesn't turn up for the next Plymouth match (having now acknowledged his place in their 1-7 and used it to take a guest booking) then he should get another ban for withholding his services again? It's well documented and common knowledge that the issue for the Atkins family at Somerset and Plymouth was Garry May and his insistence of continually swapping reserves over. Some riders need a kick up the backside others need an encouraging arm and some support. Atkins is still an excellent talent and hopefully Jason Crump and Peter Shroek can harness and encourage it and get his career back on track. Edited June 4, 2022 by HGould Change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Henry Atkins is & always has been a spoilt brat. He was mascot at Somerset for a few seasons & his Father would badger the Referee , Clarke of the Course & Pit Marshall before each meeting to get him on track as often as possible, before & after the parade, after Ht 14, Straight after Ht 15 & even control which riders should be allowed in second half events. anyone that might have a chance to be Our Henry would not be allowed to often. After an U21 qualifier that Young Henry was in at the OTA he was in the bar telling anyone that would listen that he should be racing in the top league & not wasting his time at this level. look where you are now Mr Atkins. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 16 hours ago, Technik said: his Father I think this was probably all you had to write. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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