Diamonds85 Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: BWD getting a lower ave won't help Newcastle though! They already built a team well below the points limit, so if they wanted to & the riders are available, could strengthen up the team anytime! Will get him away from the number 1 position though, he needs to ride at number 2 on last night's showing, at least then he MAY get something in heat 8... I can now understand why they put Matty at 2 Max was another level of class yet again, he's going to be our strongest rider this season I feel We are, scarily enough, in exactly the same position as last year... I just hope all this sponsorship means our future isn't threatened and we can start with a clean slate next season, alongside everyone else... With a PROPER number 1... Edited April 4, 2022 by Diamonds85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 7 hours ago, szkocjasid said: BWD getting a lower ave won't help Newcastle though! They already built a team well below the points limit, so if they wanted to & the riders are available, could strengthen up the team anytime! It's all well & good saying that changes need to be made ! But the thing is where are the riders going to come from as with being a Sunday track we all know how hard it is getting a out & out number 1 rider in as a majority of the riders Rob tried to get in last season are fixed up this season already so we need to get behind the current team & enjoy the rest of the season.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 9 hours ago, szkocjasid said: BWD getting a lower ave won't help Newcastle though! They already built a team well below the points limit, so if they wanted to & the riders are available, could strengthen up the team anytime! Yeah, didn't say or imply it would. Was just replying to 'jaizer',,, but like 'cpc' guy has said, it's not like the proper no.1's are queueing up doon the Fossway to get in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 18 hours ago, Jaizer said: Out of interest how did BWD get that average? My memories of him in previous championship spell was strong 2nd string/ 3rd heat leader level. Is it a converted average from the prem? 18 hours ago, ruffdiamond said: That will be correct, PL (5.47, 2019) converted X 1.5. 16 hours ago, Jaizer said: 4 home and 4 away? 15 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Rules changed for this year, it's now 8 matches, doesn't matter how many home or away! The last 2 posts are for assessed averages. I am not too sure but in the past a rider with an old CL average will have a new average with latest meetings up to & including the 23rd day of the month & including his last CL meetings giving a 20 meeting rolling average. Although, as szkocjasid says, rules have changed this year so an old + new rolling average might not apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 The new assessed rules are in the bumper edition of the SS & Premiership is 3 home 3 away & Championship last 8 (qualifying) meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrace Grumbler Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 I'm not exactly feeling the love for BWD; I hope he doesn't read these Boards. Why don't we see how it goes in the next few weeks? I think - hope - most of the Diamonds faithful will be willing him (and George) to succeed. Me in particular as I have 500 inflatable Kiwis on order... On a different note, did anyone else think yesterday that maybe it's a pity it didn't work out with BB? Still, that's water under the bridge now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 51 minutes ago, Terrace Grumbler said: On a different note, did anyone else think yesterday that maybe it's a pity it didn't work out with BB? Still, that's water under the bridge now. A did mention it whilst standing with my motley crew,,, got a bit of a chuckle when a said he was like the littlest hobo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 Bb will do well at Plymouth being paid on time always makes you perform better . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, lewy said: Bb will do well at Plymouth being paid on time always makes you perform better . Really? Cause was paid promptly with us and was absolutely rotten lol. Barker's the kind of character performs when thinks got something to prove IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jaizer said: Really? Cause was paid promptly with us and was absolutely rotten lol. Barker's the kind of character performs when thinks got something to prove IMO Don't know about that but your team seem happy enough to bring him in as a guest when required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 hours ago, IronScorpion said: The last 2 posts are for assessed averages. I am not too sure but in the past a rider with an old CL average will have a new average with latest meetings up to & including the 23rd day of the month & including his last CL meetings giving a 20 meeting rolling average. Although, as szkocjasid says, rules have changed this year so an old + new rolling average might not apply. 2022 Rolling Averages are calculated including 2019, 2021 and 2022 results to a maximum number of 20 matches (from Speedway GB website) BWD last rode in the Champ in 2018, won't doesn't have any previous matches to add for a rolling ave. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 24 minutes ago, lewy said: Don't know about that but your team seem happy enough to bring him in as a guest when required. You think he was replaced mid-season for performing well lol. That's my point, he's got a point to prove whenever he's back. With Newcastle he passed cookie I think 3 times, I can't remember a single other person passing him at ashfield last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jaizer said: You think he was replaced mid-season for performing well lol. That's my point, he's got a point to prove whenever he's back. With Newcastle he passed cookie I think 3 times, I can't remember a single other person passing him at ashfield last season At least we agree he's got talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 Just now, lewy said: At least we agree he's got talent Absolutely never been in question, mental side been his downfall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, lewy said: At least we agree he's got talent Garry May however, is listing Ben at #2 in this week's Gladiators line-up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, crescent girl said: Garry May however, is listing Ben at #2 in this week's Gladiators line-up Never said he wasn't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Terrace Grumbler said: I'm not exactly feeling the love for BWD; I hope he doesn't read these Boards. Why don't we see how it goes in the next few weeks? I think - hope - most of the Diamonds faithful will be willing him (and George) to succeed. Me in particular as I have 500 inflatable Kiwis on order... On a different note, did anyone else think yesterday that maybe it's a pity it didn't work out with BB? Still, that's water under the bridge now. I don't think anyone's saying get rid of them now!! I think it's just a 'oh no here we go again' moment we've had to get used to so much over the last 5 years or so... Maybe even longer for some of the older fans... Just sick of not having proper out and out number 1s in the team kinda thing... But I guess we're the lucky ones because we actually have a team As for Ben Barker... I am a massive fan of him, Plymouth being my second home, I've seen him a lot down there... However it was plainly obvious that Ben did not want to be at Newcastle last season even before the tapes went up on the very first meeting... He tried to get out of it enough times anyway... He's VERY talented and VERY spectacular to watch, but he'll never make it as a big time rider, because he's a nutcase... Still love watching him though, particularly on small and tight tracks... Balls of steel And if BWD does read this forum (which I highly doubt) he's not hated already and it's nothing personal against him, it's not his fault he's been given a ridiculously inflated average... However I don't think us Newcastle fans particularly appreciate giving up after 3 laps or so, so hopefully that stops by next week... Even Ludvig, who was amazing around Brough, got hate for that... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 hours ago, lewy said: Never said he wasn't! To me that's more protection of a weak number 1 than any slight on Barker. Sorry if Newcastle consider this hi-jacking of threads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 19 hours ago, Jaizer said: Really? Cause was paid promptly with us and was absolutely rotten lol. Barker's the kind of character performs when thinks got something to prove IMO Really? So how come your management tried to tap him up just before the transfer deadline with the promise of better gear & a place in 2022? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: Really? So how come your management tried to tap him up just before the transfer deadline with the promise of better gear & a place in 2022? What's that to do with anything? IF it did even happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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