StevePark Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, cinderfella said: On paper he may be but evidence from various meetings suggests otherwise. OK maybe you having limited time for preparation hinders track work but other tracks have the same problem but manage to prepare a surface fit for racing. Now the track has been 'fixed' we shall see. but on the evidence of the meeting against Redcar (fastest times of the season), suggests that is exactly what they have managed to do. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 Newcastle are not alone atm....between us (Bham) and Newcastle, we have 12 'fit/ish' riders and apart from possibly Nielsen/Clegg, none of the rest would manage a team place at any/most other teams in the League....it's a sad state of affairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 How long will Jack Smith last.That’s the question he has a poor record when given a chance in Championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: Where would Complin fit in if Jack Smith is in the Team,would he still be the other reserve. No get rid of them both,put max and James at 6&7 then start again.no idea where these riders are going to come from though.I’m guessing matty will be out for a while,god knows what’s happening with starkey,and no number 1.so may as well build a new team .as before I’ve no clue where there going to come from.just my opinion on what granty will have to do to keep the few fans that are left coming on a Sunday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bigred said: No get rid of them both,put max and James at 6&7 then start again.no idea where these riders are going to come from though.I’m guessing matty will be out for a while,god knows what’s happening with starkey,and no number 1.so may as well build a new team .as before I’ve no clue where there going to come from.just my opinion on what granty will have to do to keep the few fans that are left coming on a Sunday. Your right no idea where the riders will come from.They aren’t interested about riding in UK for little money.Newcastle probably should have dropped down a league,when they realised the riders weren’t interested for the money on offer. Edited June 9, 2022 by Fromafar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 31 minutes ago, StevePark said: Now the track has been 'fixed' we shall see. but on the evidence of the meeting against Redcar (fastest times of the season), suggests that is exactly what they have managed to do. They did a cracking job Steve,however they will not be doing the track every meeting I’m just saying that the clowns that usually do the track will ruin it again, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, bigred said: They did a cracking job Steve,however they will not be doing the track every meeting I’m just saying that the clowns that usually do the track will ruin it again, What if they get new clowns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, bigred said: They did a cracking job Steve,however they will not be doing the track every meeting I’m just saying that the clowns that usually do the track will ruin it again, As I said earlier, one of those 'clowns' as you so eloquently put it, is one of the best track curators in the Leagues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 34 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Your right no idea where the riders will come from.They aren’t interested about riding in UK for little money.Newcastle probably should have dropped down a league,when they realised the riders weren’t interested for the money on offer. The sadly ain't enough riders who want to ride over here and the ones that do will ride where they want to ride and no doubt chase the best money available, in an ideal world the top riders would be spread evenly cross the clubs and each club have 2 big hitter/heat leaders but that's never going to happen so you get the situation like we have now, Poole a Leicester have 3 big hitters and teams like Newcastle and Birmingham can't even get one let alone a couple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, kevin bass said: The sadly ain't enough riders who want to ride over here and the ones that do will ride where they want to ride and no doubt chase the best money available, in an ideal world the top riders would be spread evenly cross the clubs and each club have 2 big hitter/heat leaders but that's never going to happen so you get the situation like we have now, Poole a Leicester have 3 big hitters and teams like Newcastle and Birmingham can't even get one let alone a couple. Don’t know how the guest payment works but if say the Kyle Howarth’s, Ricky Wells, Richie and Stevie Worralls and Lewis Kerr’s etc are willing to guest for Newcastle and are expected to score double figures everytime is it not the same as giving big money to 1 rider who you would expect to score double figures everytime ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, KEITH M said: Don’t know how the guest payment works but if say the Kyle Howarth’s, Ricky Wells, Richie and Stevie Worralls and Lewis Kerr’s etc are willing to guest for Newcastle and are expected to score double figures everytime is it not the same as giving big money to 1 rider who you would expect to score double figures everytime ? Yeah but it's getting the riders to ride for any given club for a season that's the problem, you'll always have guests for injuries and alike and their probably more then happy to pick up guest bookings to supplement their income, im just saying you wouldn't be having the current situation if the riders were spread about more evenly but it ain't gonna happen, they tried that one or two 8 point rider per team rule in the top league a few seasons back but that just made riders manipulate their averages at the end of the season so that they finished the season just shy of 8 points and made them more in demand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winditon Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, KEITH M said: Don’t know how the guest payment works but if say the Kyle Howarth’s, Ricky Wells, Richie and Stevie Worralls and Lewis Kerr’s etc are willing to guest for Newcastle and are expected to score double figures everytime is it not the same as giving big money to 1 rider who you would expect to score double figures everytime ? Looks like the rain off at Oxford saved us from another big hiding. Kerr 1 from 2 rides. Not sure if the track was poor for all the 4 heats but he was flying there only last week or the week before for Redcar. Apart from the Worralls, Howarth and maybe 1 or 2 more Guests have been pretty poor for us in general over past seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, KEITH M said: Don’t know how the guest payment works but if say the Kyle Howarth’s, Ricky Wells, Richie and Stevie Worralls and Lewis Kerr’s etc are willing to guest for Newcastle and are expected to score double figures everytime is it not the same as giving big money to 1 rider who you would expect to score double figures everytime ? Good point,but I suppose you don’t have meet the riders signing on demands( bikes ,engines,transport ,ect,) to start with. Edited June 9, 2022 by Fromafar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 Sorry but I don't see how Jack Smith strengthens the Diamonds, not unless they bring in two top performers along side. Question is who. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondboy Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 3 hours ago, StevePark said: As I said earlier, one of those 'clowns' as you so eloquently put it, is one of the best track curators in the Leagues. Give it a rest will you, your white knighting of the promotion is getting rather sickly now. The whole set up is an absolute joke. I have no affiliation to any promotion but this lot ain’t getting my money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biffa Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 Last weeks Speedway Star has the league and KOC cup combined averages in, and George has had 9 matches, 28 rides and scored 6+1 for an average of 1. I have no gripe with George, Newcastle or anyone ( Redcar Fan I am), but surely if Jack Smith scores 8 points before the end of the season it must be an improvement. Like I say, no bother to me either way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Fromafar said: How long will Jack Smith last.That’s the question he has a poor record when given a chance in Championship. I see Jack riding for BV Colts, being with Archie Freeman, and he is loads better than the comments about him. Hard rider, good gater and not frightened to mix it. Really pleased for him to get another chance and I hope he takes it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 29 minutes ago, Diamondboy said: Give it a rest will you, your white knighting of the promotion is getting rather sickly now. The whole set up is an absolute joke. I have no affiliation to any promotion but this lot ain’t getting my money. The curator in question is one if the best in the county.Long time (30 years)curator of Sheffield and Scunny, count in several GP's at Cardiff and was one of the 'clowns' you call them that put the track right a couple of weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 Just now, Tsunami said: The curator in question is one if the best in the county.Long time (30 years)curator of Sheffield and Scunny, count in several GP's at Cardiff and was one of the 'clowns' you call them that put the track right a couple of weeks ago. To be fair it wasn't Diamondboy who called them 'clowns', it was Bigred. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondboy Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tsunami said: The curator in question is one if the best in the county.Long time (30 years)curator of Sheffield and Scunny, count in several GP's at Cardiff and was one of the 'clowns' you call them that put the track right a couple of weeks ago. I never called anyone a clown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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