Bagpuss Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jaizer said: Incorrect. We want it to be same level as it's traditionally been. Not watered down because the prems been watered down. They should fix their issues not weaken out league But surely the NL would have to 'fix their issues' too? Because the gap is still too big. At the end of the day 'us and them' won't work, everyone needs to work together but promoters haven't done that for years if ever so don't expect compromise any time soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted October 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: But surely the NL would have to 'fix their issues' too? Because the gap is still too big. At the end of the day 'us and them' won't work, everyone needs to work together but promoters haven't done that for years if ever so don't expect compromise any time soon. Correct but it's only championship supporters that are suffering.. nothing else being reduced as far as I know? Keep hearing this gap is too big, last few years had bewley, Brennan, flint, kemp, Palin, Edwards, Jenkins, the Thompson's, bailey all make jump from NL and hold their own and most on 5+ averages. Imo there's now an issue with the your program. Few years ago the youth champ were about 50 riders, this season was there even 10? I can't think of 5 riders are ready to move up from NL from last season. The issue is they're either not ready or not good enough. The solution is make them better not weaken the leagues 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xvcjk Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Jaizer said: Correct but it's only championship supporters that are suffering.. nothing else being reduced as far as I know? Keep hearing this gap is too big, last few years had bewley, Brennan, flint, kemp, Palin, Edwards, Jenkins, the Thompson's, bailey all make jump from NL and hold their own and most on 5+ averages. Imo there's now an issue with the your program. Few years ago the youth champ were about 50 riders, this season was there even 10? I can't think of 5 riders are ready to move up from NL from last season. The issue is they're either not ready or not good enough. The solution is make them better not weaken the leagues Couldn’t agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 It has to be remembered that Covid did not stop older riders from retiring but did significantly slow down the careers of junior riders. This has seen those in the NDL find moving up into the CL harder and also seen a massive reduction in those in 125cc, 250cc and 500cc under 16 series. It will take about five years for the situation to correct itself and we all know how good the BSPL are with five year plans and keeping to them! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 On 10/17/2022 at 7:45 PM, lisa-colette said: They are number 1 and 5 for Wolves in the Prem, so seems ridiculous to me to have them as top 2 in a Champ team as well!! Surely Champ should be in-between Prem and NL, but it seems to be really close to the Prem and far away from NL. No wonder NL riders find it difficult to move up successfully. Why shouldChampionships clubs be punished for the mediocre standard of rider in top tier. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 41 minutes ago, Endeavour said: Why shouldChampionships clubs be punished for the mediocre standard of rider in top tier. Prem could be slightly stronger next year with some coming back? But still think Champ needs to be a bit closer to NL, so not as big of a jump for NL riders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 Jubilee dates announced but know mention of Glasgow taking part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: Jubilee dates announced but know mention of Glasgow taking part There is on BSPL website fixture list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseq7 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, arnieg said: There is on BSPL website fixture list No 3rd leg though is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Joseq7 said: No 3rd leg though is there? Has it been moved to Leicester? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Joseq7 said: No 3rd leg though is there? Ask Jake the Peg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseq7 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lefty said: Has it been moved to Leicester? I honestly find it odd that we'll participate in the two "away" legs but not stage a "home" leg. It's weird, odd. The silence is deafening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, Joseq7 said: I honestly find it odd that we'll participate in the two "away" legs but not stage a "home" leg. It's weird, odd. The silence is deafening. I honestly do not think we will compete at all. I get the impression that our Promotion think untrained chimpanzees with an IQ of a dessert flea and the brain cell capacity of an unborn toad could do a better job at running British Speedway as it stands. And I would wholeheartedly agree with them. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseq7 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Gazc said: I honestly do not think we will compete at all. I get the impression that our Promotion think untrained chimpanzees with an IQ of a dessert flea and the brain cell capacity of an unborn toad could do a better job at running British Speedway as it stands. And I would wholeheartedly agree with them. I'm sure you're right but a fine for not completing three fixtures isn't going to be cheap. However we must have calculated that the three fines are less than the anticipated loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 On 10/18/2022 at 2:30 PM, Jaizer said: Correct but it's only championship supporters that are suffering.. nothing else being reduced as far as I know? Keep hearing this gap is too big, last few years had bewley, Brennan, flint, kemp, Palin, Edwards, Jenkins, the Thompson's, bailey all make jump from NL and hold their own and most on 5+ averages. Imo there's now an issue with the your program. Few years ago the youth champ were about 50 riders, this season was there even 10? I can't think of 5 riders are ready to move up from NL from last season. The issue is they're either not ready or not good enough. The solution is make them better not weaken the leagues Your saying don't weaken the leagues but there realistically very little difference between the 2 so what has 2 give? u can't just say make them better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 Just now, Joseq7 said: I'm sure you're right but a fine for not completing three fixtures isn't going to be cheap. However we must have calculated that the three fines are less than the anticipated loss. Allied pump a lot of sponsorship into British Speedway and in Particular Team GB. I am sure they will take this into consideration before making there decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/18/2022 at 2:06 PM, lisa-colette said: Yep exactly. Too many Champ fans want it to be the same standard as the Prem. Why not ? We're paying pretty much the same admission fee as Premiership fans 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 43 minutes ago, Paulco said: Why not ? We're paying pretty much the same admission fee as Premiership fans But how much is NL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: But how much is NL? £10 at Berwick 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fromafar said: £10 at Berwick I personally think its unrealistic to have a standard admission charge across each of the leagues. Every club has its own costs which can vary dramatically from one club to another. Similarly they have a reasonable idea of their likely attendance and any potential sponsorship so should set the admission prices to suit themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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