Biffa Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 Always thought breakdown/ non arrival was NDL rider only to replace, or does the %age of the average get reduced to use a guest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Biffa said: Always thought breakdown/ non arrival was NDL rider only to replace, or does the %age of the average get reduced to use a guest? We would have been as well with an NDL guest last night - at least he would have been comfortable using his own equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 23 hours ago, cyclone said: With Edinburgh unlikely to run in 2023, expect the BSPL to try to exploit this & coerce Tigers to join the Premiership. If the Facennas agree, don't expect them to be offered any assistance in assembling a competitive side from the current PL members who will prioritise their own self interest. I think the tone has changed on this. I now think Edinburgh will run in 2023 and it'll be at Armadale - might they even announce it on Saturday?...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, JanAndersen said: I think the tone has changed on this. I now think Edinburgh will run in 2023 and it'll be at Armadale - might they even announce it on Saturday?...... If Edinburgh have agreed to be back at Armadale in 2023, it wouldn't be fair to call the Scottish Open the "farewell to Armadale". Wouldn't be right to try & get a big crowd under false pretences. As for Glasgow I think the days of lots of away fans turning up are long gone & home crowds are what keeps clubs going. But especially with no Edinburgh, Berwick or Workington, it would be the perfect time to step up! No point Glasgow saying they'll only move up once they've won the Championship. May as well just admit they'll never move up lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtruck Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 5 hours ago, szkocjasid said: If Edinburgh have agreed to be back at Armadale in 2023, it wouldn't be fair to call the Scottish Open the "farewell to Armadale". Wouldn't be right to try & get a big crowd under false pretences. As for Glasgow I think the days of lots of away fans turning up are long gone & home crowds are what keeps clubs going. But especially with no Edinburgh, Berwick or Workington, it would be the perfect time to step up! No point Glasgow saying they'll only move up once they've won the Championship. May as well just admit they'll never move up lol! Didn’t Newcastle have a fairwell meeting last year then run for half of this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo95 Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Redtruck said: Didn’t Newcastle have a fairwell meeting last year then run for half of this season Seems to happen a few times. Was at the Abbey farewell while on holiday and Swindon run for another 3 or 4 years. Would be good if Edinburgh had another 3 or 4 years to finally secure a new home. Any news on the jubilee trophy? Best wishes to Ulrich now he has retired. Used to be good to watch at Berwick. Edited October 13, 2022 by Gambo95 Info added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlicktrackSandy Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 9 hours ago, szkocjasid said: If Edinburgh have agreed to be back at Armadale in 2023, it wouldn't be fair to call the Scottish Open the "farewell to Armadale". Wouldn't be right to try & get a big crowd under false pretences. As for Glasgow I think the days of lots of away fans turning up are long gone & home crowds are what keeps clubs going. But especially with no Edinburgh, Berwick or Workington, it would be the perfect time to step up! No point Glasgow saying they'll only move up once they've won the Championship. May as well just admit they'll never move up lol! If a temporary reprieve did materialise for 2023 - can't think many would take issue with the title of a farewell event that was planned some time ago based on the knowledge available at that time. Would have thought that "rejoicing" for most Speedway fans would be the immediate response. Maybe one of Bill McLaren's "They'll be dancing in the streets of Armadale" ( and elsewhere ) quotes would be appropriate if this does turn out to be the case. Fingers crossed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, SlicktrackSandy said: If a temporary reprieve did materialise for 2023 - can't think many would take issue with the title of a farewell event that was planned some time ago based on the knowledge available at that time. Would have thought that "rejoicing" for most Speedway fans would be the immediate response. Maybe one of Bill McLaren's "They'll be dancing in the streets of Armadale" ( and elsewhere ) quotes would be appropriate if this does turn out to be the case. Fingers crossed. Hear hear. I mean what's in a title? Let's face is the Premier League (and Elite League before it) have been getting away with claims of being the best for years. Trade Descriptions Act obviously doesn't apply to speedway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, cinderfella said: Hear hear. I mean what's in a title? Let's face is the Premier League (and Elite League before it) have been getting away with claims of being the best for years. Trade Descriptions Act obviously doesn't apply to speedway They are though.....'best' / highest standard in the UK. Regardless of people's opinion of quality of racing, standard in previous years, etc. Its the Premier / Elite standard in Britain. Full stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 5 hours ago, SlicktrackSandy said: If a temporary reprieve did materialise for 2023 - can't think many would take issue with the title of a farewell event that was planned some time ago based on the knowledge available at that time. Would have thought that "rejoicing" for most Speedway fans would be the immediate response. Maybe one of Bill McLaren's "They'll be dancing in the streets of Armadale" ( and elsewhere ) quotes would be appropriate if this does turn out to be the case. Fingers crossed. I totally agree of it was announced that they had another season, no one would be complaining. Just think it would be wrong not to admit if beforehand that's all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 6 hours ago, Bagpuss said: They are though.....'best' / highest standard in the UK. Regardless of people's opinion of quality of racing, standard in previous years, etc. Its the Premier / Elite standard in Britain. Full stop. Sorry can't agree when over 90% of the riders also race in the so called lower league. Look at Peterborough last season when their top averaged rider (MPT) was only 4th in the averages at his CL team Redcar. The whole thing is a joke and and I'm afraid there is nothing but snobbery involved if any PL fan claims their league is better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, cinderfella said: Sorry can't agree when over 90% of the riders also race in the so called lower league. Look at Peterborough last season when their top averaged rider (MPT) was only 4th in the averages at his CL team Redcar. The whole thing is a joke and and I'm afraid there is nothing but snobbery involved if any PL fan claims their league is better. I'm not sure anyone would claim that a six team league is better but it's undisputedly the highest standard as it has seen Doyle, Fricke, Lambert, Klindt, Iversen, Holder, Musielak, Kurtz et al appear in it. Therefore whatever else you think of it it can call itself the Premiership Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I'm not sure anyone would claim that a six team league is better but it's undisputedly the highest standard as it has seen Doyle, Fricke, Lambert, Klindt, Iversen, Holder, Musielak, Kurtz et al appear in it. Therefore whatever else you think of it it can call itself the Premiership Why do those riders make it the highest standard of racing? Its just as likely to mean more processional racing unless every Premiership team has 7 riders of similar standard and similar machinery ?! Edited October 13, 2022 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 26 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Why do those riders make it the highest standard of racing? Its just as likely to mean more processional racing unless every Premiership team has 7 riders of similar standard and similar machinery ?! Nobody said it was the highest standard of racing It's the highest standard we have here in terms of quality of rider. That's a fact, not opinion. Talk about hard work! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 so is that Glasgow over and done with for 2022 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, jenga said: so is that Glasgow over and done with for 2022 ? Not is BSPA getbtheir finger out and decide what, if anything, is going to happen with the Jubilee three team final. Probably another project binned due to lack of time despite many teams having had several weeks of inactivity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike0310 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Regardless of the politics of it all and when it should have been held the riders have lost out on 3 pay packets and that’s not fair, but I must admit cook not turning up at Plymouth on Tuesday stinks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 13 hours ago, Mike0310 said: Regardless of the politics of it all and when it should have been held the riders have lost out on 3 pay packets and that’s not fair, but I must admit cook not turning up at Plymouth on Tuesday stinks. That would be his catalytic converter.... Smells like sulphur when it goes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 13 hours ago, Mike0310 said: Regardless of the politics of it all and when it should have been held the riders have lost out on 3 pay packets and that’s not fair, but I must admit cook not turning up at Plymouth on Tuesday stinks. Yes seems to have gone Very quiet at Glasgow regarding cook's none appearance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: Yes seems to have gone Very quiet at Glasgow regarding cook's none appearance Not just on Tuesday either!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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