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10 hours ago, lewy said:

You may need more shale than last season when you make the track bigger to accommodate the soccer pitch,allegedly this is what's being planned 

Best thing that could happen, football is happy, the speedway is happy, everyone is happy 

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Looking at what is likely to be the make up of the team with on weak reserve and an average reserve, this will put a lot of pressure on the rest of the team to perform at their best all the time. Personally I don't like it, Kemp is not as good as Hume and nowhere near Basso, Kemp would be ok as the weaker reserve but not as the stronger reserve.  

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2 hours ago, foreverblue said:

Looking at what is likely to be the make up of the team with on weak reserve and an average reserve, this will put a lot of pressure on the rest of the team to perform at their best all the time. Personally I don't like it, Kemp is not as good as Hume and nowhere near Basso, Kemp would be ok as the weaker reserve but not as the stronger reserve.  

A few well respected pundits north of the border plus some Edinburgh fans would have liked to see Drew stay with the Monarchs, so you may be surprised. 

 

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5 minutes ago, SharpenRake said:

A few well respected pundits north of the border plus some Edinburgh fans would have liked to see Drew stay with the Monarchs, so you may be surprised. 

 

That doesn't surprise me, he has potential but as the stronger reserve I think he may struggle as he will be expected to perform like Basso or Stefan Neilsen and that is not going to happen. 

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2 hours ago, foreverblue said:

Looking at what is likely to be the make up of the team with on weak reserve and an average reserve, this will put a lot of pressure on the rest of the team to perform at their best all the time. Personally I don't like it, Kemp is not as good as Hume and nowhere near Basso, Kemp would be ok as the weaker reserve but not as the stronger reserve.  

Have to remember this is part of a plan B after Basso pulled out and upset them big time.

Think they already decided on 3 H/L after last season and that alone meant after Basso saga they would have to do a reshuffle further down. Think they had already commited to both of the Cook's so it really did reduce options at reserve.

Think Kemp deserves a chance. Wolves have signed him in Prem so must see something and he is going to be getting regular racing experience at UK top level besides riding at Poole. Also riding in POL so will be riding lots. He also scored decent at Poole last season. For me getting 3-3 or 2-4 in the reserve races won't be a disaster, as don't expect much in return from the number 7 whoever he is.

To a degree there will be more pressure as we won't have a Basso to cover other riders not doing well in the meeting, but something had to give anyway, as even if we had signed Basso we still would have had a points limit situation facing Poole in the lower 1/2 berths.

For me top 4/6 is the target initially and situation can always be reviewed as the season develops.

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1 hour ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

Have to remember this is part of a plan B after Basso pulled out and upset them big time.

Think they already decided on 3 H/L after last season and that alone meant after Basso saga they would have to do a reshuffle further down. Think they had already commited to both of the Cook's so it really did reduce options at reserve.

Think Kemp deserves a chance. Wolves have signed him in Prem so must see something and he is going to be getting regular racing experience at UK top level besides riding at Poole. Also riding in POL so will be riding lots. He also scored decent at Poole last season. For me getting 3-3 or 2-4 in the reserve races won't be a disaster, as don't expect much in return from the number 7 whoever he is.

To a degree there will be more pressure as we won't have a Basso to cover other riders not doing well in the meeting, but something had to give anyway, as even if we had signed Basso we still would have had a points limit situation facing Poole in the lower 1/2 berths.

For me top 4/6 is the target initially and situation can always be reviewed as the season develops.

Can’t agree Lawson was in their thoughts initially as if he was nobody had told Plymouth. We can't blame Basso, the management wrongly assumed he would be in the team and he chose Glasgow, our management always seem to think if we offer a place to a rider he won't turn us down . I agree Kemp deserves a place but not as the stronger reserve.With Basso in the team you wouldn't need Lawson so you could build more strength in depth. I think there will be changes mid season or we won't make the playoffs. 

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4 hours ago, foreverblue said:

Looking at what is likely to be the make up of the team with on weak reserve and an average reserve, this will put a lot of pressure on the rest of the team to perform at their best all the time. Personally I don't like it, Kemp is not as good as Hume and nowhere near Basso, Kemp would be ok as the weaker reserve but not as the stronger reserve.  

Unfortunately that's the flip side of signing three number ones. For me Kemp has more natural ability and potential than Hume and possibly Nielsen but he needs to start fulfilling it, moving to Wolves and Poole might be the catalyst he needs. I actually think the Cooks look more vulnerable than the reserves, a lot of pressure on them as second strings. I expect changes will be made during during the season as often happens but on paper this ain't a league winning team 

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I'm not sure about Kemp. When he started he looked like the next British superstar & at 15/16 he was head & shoulders above those of the same age range. As he has got older his progress has slowed & in my opinion last season went backwards. I wonder if he has reached his potential & now is in a position where he is beaten before the tapes rise. This season at Wolves he will be with one of his biggest rivals in Leon Flint so maybe they can draw the best out of each other.

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I'll say it again - its not how you start its how you finish!!  We didn't get Basso til end August in 2021 but still did pretty well prior to that.

I would wager that the Fords have their eye on someone similar to bring in if required mid-season - in any case it keeps the starting 1-7 on their toes - whoever they maybe?;):t:

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9 minutes ago, Skidder1 said:

I'll say it again - its not how you start its how you finish!!  We didn't get Basso til end August in 2021 but still did pretty well prior to that.

I would wager that the Fords have their eye on someone similar to bring in if required mid-season - in any case it keeps the starting 1-7 on their toes - whoever they maybe?;):t:

If it's the team we all think then I am pretty happy with it. I have no problem with having Drew Kemp at reserve. 

Skidder any clues on the time frame for announcements as we have gone past the 'within the month' that Dan Ford said in early Dec! ;)

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16 hours ago, stevehone said:

so how it was in 80s?

I went to Poole regularly in the 70's but not again until comparetively recently so I didn't see when or what changed.

Poole Town were still at the stadium when I went and the dog track is still as I remember it, so what changed?

Were the dog & speedway tracks widened making the centre green too small for the football pitch?  I'm guessing the pitch used to meet the regulation minimum size back in the day?

 

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The Poole side seems a similar build to our team last season. The 3 heat leaders and the Cook brothers chipping in with 4/5 each should win you most matches. I can understand the doubts with Drew as sometimes he can struggle but trust me, you will not be disappointed. He’s a great young lad with a lot of talent, hopefully he can find some consistency this season and push on.

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1 hour ago, AFCB Wildcat said:

I went to Poole regularly in the 70's but not again until comparetively recently so I didn't see when or what changed.

Poole Town were still at the stadium when I went and the dog track is still as I remember it, so what changed?

Were the dog & speedway tracks widened making the centre green too small for the football pitch?  I'm guessing the pitch used to meet the regulation minimum size back in the day?

 

The speedway track was changed considerably in 1995/96 IIRC, I went a couple of times in the early nineties and while it was a fast and spectacular track it was very narrow with little room, its much wider now. I assume the football club vacating allowed the changes to happen.

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1 hour ago, Skidder1 said:

I'll say it again - its not how you start its how you finish!!  We didn't get Basso til end August in 2021 but still did pretty well prior to that.

I would wager that the Fords have their eye on someone similar to bring in if required mid-season - in any case it keeps the starting 1-7 on their toes - whoever they maybe?;):t:

 Also on Kemp perhaps some forget he won 2 races in the KOC semi at  Poole where he beat Basso in 2 races. Paid 9 from 6 races pretty good considering he scored 6 in his first 3 rides (both wins). Also he scored 6 paid 7 in his first 3 rides in the first leg. Again he beat Basso so that was 3 times he beat Basso over the 2 meetings. Maybe Danny/Matt saw something in those meetings alone irrespective of him being still a promising young rider. Not everyone matures at the same level. The fact he has been signed also by Wolves and in POL (Gdansk in Lge 1 as an U24 rider) means that potential is still big in many eyes.

As I finish, looking at some of those last meetings he also scored 9 from 5 rides against Glasgow and 8 plus 1 from his first 4 rides also in another late meeting V Glasgow. Add in a 9 plus 3 bonus from 5 rides against Redcar.

For sure October looked a decent month for Kemp. If he can continue in that form I think Poole have a decent signing and let's not forget he was only 19 in August, so still plenty of time on his side. For sure he needs to improve at tracks like Glasgow but its important we win our home matches and keep where possible within 6 points in the away matches where possible. Hopefully with some wins at the weaker teams.

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