lisa-colette Posted December 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 minute ago, BassoontheGasso said: I don't how Matt's going to convince the council to help him pay the rent considering he doesn't live in the country and he's got a beautiful chateau on the Television. Poole are in a bit of bother here and club bosses know it which is why no signings have been made official in case one of the following happens. A - They don't run at all due to no financial help from the council (Unlikely but possible) B - Will run but will have to make another team change or two in order to keep the cost down due to the rent increase making a dent in the budget (Most likely) Stop stirring like you did on Newcastle thread, it really isn't needed. Thanks. You don't know anything that is happening at Poole, so can we leave it to the people that do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 Stef Neilsen did more than enough to warrant a place in Poole’s line up fo 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tosh1218 said: Stef Neilsen did more than enough to warrant a place in Poole’s line up fo 2022 All down to averages 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Stop stirring like you did on Newcastle thread, it really isn't needed. Thanks. You don't know anything that is happening at Poole, so can we leave it to the people that do. Not stirring at all. Poole cant pay the rent and that's a fact because if they could afford to pay it then Matt wouldn't need to get the council involved by asking them for financial help in order to pay the rent. (Not an opinion) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 28 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Stop stirring like you did on Newcastle thread, it really isn't needed. Thanks. You don't know anything that is happening at Poole, so can we leave it to the people that do. We don't know either .well I don't anyway .Matt said they doubled it.so perhaps Poole speedway was not paying enough in the first place . business is in a bad state in this country .can't see BCP subsiciding to help pay the rent .so who knows what will happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 Birmingham Newcastle and then Kent faced these rent demands I understand. Some of these operations value the speedway others see it as an inconvenience sadly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz9100 Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 34 minutes ago, ray c said: We don't know either .well I don't anyway .Matt said they doubled it.so perhaps Poole speedway was not paying enough in the first place . business is in a bad state in this country .can't see BCP subsiciding to help pay the rent .so who knows what will happen There has been a standard agreed year on year rent increase since Matt took over the club, this year Gaming International decided that they wanted to double the rent (not double the increase but a full doubling of the rent) hence the need to sort it out. Speaking with Danny on Sunday I was under the impression that an agreement had now been reached and it was just the final legal crossing of T's and dotting of I's 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, GWC said: Birmingham Newcastle and then Kent faced these rent demands I understand. Some of these operations value the speedway others see it as an inconvenience sadly. Owners go into business for themselves and they honestly don't care about Speedway owners or Speedway in general. They want to recover as much financial COVID losses as possible and they can hold Speedway owners to ransom knowing full well the Speedway owner has got nowhere else to run his club. I don't know why Lisa thinks I'm having a pop when I'm just speaking the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonc Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 Not sure if i am missing something but where is it said that Matt is asking the council for financial support? I am guessing it is more with support around the conditions of the original lease from the council and any provisions contained within the covenant when the land was given to the people of Poole 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, BassoontheGasso said: Owners go into business for themselves and they honestly don't care about Speedway owners or Speedway in general. They want to recover as much financial COVID losses as possible and they can hold Speedway owners to ransom knowing full well the Speedway owner has got nowhere else to run his club. I don't know why Lisa thinks I'm having a pop when I'm just speaking the truth Edited December 22, 2021 by Tosh1218 Didn’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 I’m not a Poole fan but let’s give there Promotion a chance to sort things out ,as a speedway fan we need as many teams to be in the league as possible as we all know Speedway is a sport that is diminishing in size so lets get behind all teams that want to come to tapes in 2022 Good Luck from an ExHull Vikings fan now converted to a Scunthorpe Scorpions fan 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, simonc said: Not sure if i am missing something but where is it said that Matt is asking the council for financial support? I am guessing it is more with support around the conditions of the original lease from the council and any provisions contained within the covenant when the land was given to the people of Poole I don't think there looking for financial help from the council, but being the council own it, i think there just looking for support 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted December 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 40 minutes ago, BassoontheGasso said: Owners go into business for themselves and they honestly don't care about Speedway owners or Speedway in general. They want to recover as much financial COVID losses as possible and they can hold Speedway owners to ransom knowing full well the Speedway owner has got nowhere else to run his club. I don't know why Lisa thinks I'm having a pop when I'm just speaking the truth. You are passing over a lot of assumptions as fact, so there is no guarantee that is true. So best not to create rumours on the situation. Unless of course you wish to quote someone official to do with the club or stadium or council. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted December 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, Tosh1218 said: I’m not a Poole fan but let’s give there Promotion a chance to sort things out ,as a speedway fan we need as many teams to be in the league as possible as we all know Speedway is a sport that is diminishing in size so lets get behind all teams that want to come to tapes in 2022 Good Luck from an ExHull Vikings fan now converted to a Scunthorpe Scorpions fan Exactly thanks for that People posting their assumptions isn't helpful to fans who just want to know what is happening. That is why I am just sticking to what official media sources are reporting on the situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 Why all the smoke and mirrors the bottom line is Poole haven't been able to announce any riders because they don't know if they will be running next season for sure ,hopefully thats not the case but if it is then teams like Birmingham ,Edinburgh or anyone else still team building will be ready to pounce. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 2 hours ago, BassoontheGasso said: Not stirring at all. Poole cant pay the rent and that's a fact because if they could afford to pay it then Matt wouldn't need to get the council involved by asking them for financial help in order to pay the rent. (Not an opinion) Matt isn't asking the council for financial help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, lewy said: Why all the smoke and mirrors the bottom line is Poole haven't been able to announce any riders because they don't know if they will be running next season for sure ,hopefully thats not the case but if it is then teams like Birmingham ,Edinburgh or anyone else still team building will be ready to pounce. Exactly what I said but it went down the wrong way with Poole fans. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, BassoontheGasso said: Exactly what I said but it went down the wrong way with Poole fans. They find the truth hard to swallow. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, lisa-colette said: Exactly thanks for that People posting their assumptions isn't helpful to fans who just want to know what is happening. That is why I am just sticking to what official media sources are reporting on the situation. I agree. Although it would have maybe helped us of a more inquisitive nature had they said they were still in negotiation on the stadium, although were confident of a resolution. The silence sowed more seeds of doubt in minds like mine as they normally drip feed us rider signings. Many of us already had an idea of who might be signing although Matt especially always had surprises up his sleeve on riders we had maybe not included. The more signings announced elsewhere coupled with early rumours on Lawson signing (first announced on Polish Speedway news site many weeks ago and then mysteriously removed a day or so later), supplied more fuel to Lawson/Steve Worrall and King being secured. Further rumours on Kemp and long ago rumours re Zach Cook coming over from Plymouth after his late season heroics and with Ben having a good first season (hampered by injury in later part of the season), plus both living together as brothers at Middlo's removed much doubt on the top 6. Also with Plymouth naming their team early without Zach. It kind of left us really only having the 2 plus pointer at number 7. I hope personally its Mulford (named as number 8 at K/Lynn after an excellent first real season for Kent in N/L and Champ. Ablitt as second choice who has commited to B.Vue in NDL for 2022. Both still 17 both born in March a few days apart. just a feeling that Mulford has something extra hence why KL jumped in to give him that 8th slot. Maybe someone on the Forum has a better insight on that one. In the meantime lets hope Matt & Danny resolve the stadium situation asap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Pirates Of Poole said: Matt isn't asking the council for financial help! What do you personally think he's asked for regarding the council's full support? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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