daz9100 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Blimey, that’s quite strongly worded! https://www.poole-speedway.com/news/view/11-12-2021-PIRATES-FUME-AS-BASSO-LEAVES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, daz9100 said: Blimey, that’s quite strongly worded! https://www.poole-speedway.com/news/view/11-12-2021-PIRATES-FUME-AS-BASSO-LEAVES "What goes around comes around" as they say, Richard Lawson being the latest! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Sounds to me reading that he was lured by the offer of much more money. He will soon discover that Glasgow are a much smaller club than Poole with a much smaller and quieter fanbase. It won’t be the same for him at all, though he might leave every meeting with more money going into his bank account. If it’s just money that he is interested in, so be it. He was very popular at Poole last season. Don’t think a similar reception will be forthcoming to him when he returns in 2022. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Would Poole of won the league without the "rising star" system? Firstly they dropped Josh MacDonald for Danyon Hume (3*). Hume averaged 5.01 & MacDonald (3.96) so that certainly strengthened them! Then they wouldn't have been able to replace Keleher with Smetana / Basso in August as that would've taken them above the points limit! MacDonald using up 4 points compared to Hume's 3*! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Sounds to me reading that he was lured by the offer of much more money. He will soon discover that Glasgow are a much smaller club than Poole with a much smaller and quieter fanbase. It won’t be the same for him at all, though he might leave every meeting with more money going into his bank account. If it’s just money that he is interested in, so be it. He was very popular at Poole last season. Don’t think a similar reception will be forthcoming to him when he returns in 2022. nothing to do with the money it was really that he could not ride for a Wednesday club over here dew to his danish commitments and poole saying they would accommodate him would mean only running 4 home meeting on a wednesday so was never going to work out a few other clubs in both leagues also wanted his services Glasgow and peterborough suites him and his mecanic with flight in and out of Uk and every rider wants to leave with money and as much as they can no matter how many fans are there Edited December 11, 2021 by mac101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, daz9100 said: Blimey, that’s quite strongly worded! https://www.poole-speedway.com/news/view/11-12-2021-PIRATES-FUME-AS-BASSO-LEAVES It is, looks like a burning bridge scenario to me, must have been pretty heated for Poole to come out publicly like this. Mind you if he's as good as we're led to believe maybe only here a couple of seasons at most and then off to pastures new/richer. Edited December 11, 2021 by gazzac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Bluster to appease fans all that is. Completely contradicting their "we must ride on Wednesday" preaching from 2019. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Jaizer said: Bluster to appease fans all that is. Completely contradicting their "we must ride on Wednesday" preaching from 2019. Would like to hear Basso's side. Doubt Poole are going to accommodate Glasgow on a Weds when he isn't riding in Denmark by the looks of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, gazzac said: It is, looks like a burning bridge scenario to me, must have been pretty heated for Poole to come out publicly like this. Mind you if he's as good as we're led to believe maybe only here a couple of seasons at most and then off to pastures new/richer. Yep, agree. Be surprised if he is in Championship in 2023. Not always the best plan to annoy Matt Ford, but there you go! Edited December 11, 2021 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Would like to hear Basso's side. Doubt Poole are going to accommodate Glasgow on a Weds when he isn't riding in Denmark by the looks of it. I'd rather my team DID accommodate Basso, so I could watch him and be entertained, rather than watching more R/R 5 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Yep, agree. Be surprised if he is in Championship in 2023. Not always the best plan to annoy Matt Ford, but there you go! So he has to base his whole career based on what Matt Ford wants him to do? And if not Matt will spit his dummy out? I don't know much about the Fords, but they seem to expect the whole of the speedway world to revolve around them? And if not they spit their dummy out and slate a young lad publicly? How petty and embarrassing... Edited December 11, 2021 by Diamonds85 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Real shame because I really enjoyed my 2 visits to Poole last year, thought it was a brilliant track and great set up, didn't realise it was ran by a bunch of children though? Just wish the young lad good luck for the future, you didn't get what you wanted boo hoo. No need to shame him, I'm sure he's not going to bother riding for yous again, even if the scenario was different now. Hope he becomes world champ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Diamonds85 said: I'd rather my team DID accommodate Basso, so I could watch him and be entertained, rather than watching more R/R So he has to base his whole career based on what Matt Ford wants him to do? And if not Matt will spit his dummy out? I don't know much about the Fords, but they seem to expect the whole of the speedway world to revolve around them? And if not they spit their dummy out and slate a young lad publicly? How petty and embarrassing... No, but we don't know what way Matt and Danny found out? Communication seems to be a bit of an issue when riders want to move on atm!! Edited December 11, 2021 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 21 hours ago, BassoontheGasso said: Not trolling here. The Ford family must be feeling sick knowing other clubs are going to reap all of the rewards in the long run regarding Ben Basso considering Poole were the team who brought him to British Speedway. I thought the Ford's wouldn't take too kindly to Ben's move. Nothing to do with Ben's attitude, It's just the Ford family being jealous due to them knowing how good Ben Basso is and it's totally understandable as I'd be feeling sick too if I was in the same position as them. Poole may have got the short term glory last season but they've introduced a superstar to British Speedway who'll comeback to haunt them on several occasions whilst knowing Ben will never ride for Poole permanently again due to the Wednesday race night clashes with Denmark. It's like Manchester United discovering Cristiano Ronaldo for short term success only for other clubs to reap all of the rewards in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: No, but we don't know what way Matt and Danny found out? Communication seems to be a bit of an issue when riders want to move on atm!! But I don't understand. In speedway riders sign year long contracts or short term contracts 99% of the time. So Benjamin's contract was up with Poole, why is it then any of Poole's business where he plans on riding next season. Beyond "Are you riding for us next year, these are our terms" and a yes no answer... Basso doesn't owe Poole anything really? And that's the way the Ford's seem to see it? But why? 5 minutes ago, BassoontheGasso said: I thought the Ford's wouldn't take too kindly to Ben's move. Nothing to do with Ben's attitude, It's just the Ford family being jealous due to them knowing how good Ben Basso is and it's totally understandable as I'd be feeling sick too if I was in the same position as them. Poole may have got the short term glory last season but they've introduced a superstar to British Speedway who'll comeback to haunt them on several occasions whilst knowing Ben will never ride for Poole permanently again due to the Wednesday race night clashes with Denmark. It's like Manchester United discovering Cristiano Ronaldo for short term success only for other clubs to reap all of the rewards in the long run. Nail on the head. Jealousy... I wish we would sign a rider like that, But I'm not jealous about it, I'm excited about the prospect of seeing Ben at Newcastle racing for the away side... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 29 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Yep, agree. Be surprised if he is in Championship in 2023. Not always the best plan to annoy Matt Ford, but there you go! lets hope we are not in the championship in 2023 neither but back where we belong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Diamonds85 said: But I don't understand. In speedway riders sign year long contracts or short term contracts 99% of the time. So Benjamin's contract was up with Poole, why is it then any of Poole's business where he plans on riding next season. Beyond "Are you riding for us next year, these are our terms" and a yes no answer... Basso doesn't owe Poole anything really? And that's the way the Ford's seem to see it? But why? Nail on the head. Jealousy... I wish we would sign a rider like that, But I'm not jealous about it, I'm excited about the prospect of seeing Ben at Newcastle racing for the away side... That's the problem, we don't know all the details! We can make all the assumptions, I might be way off or so could you be. I am massively assuming that Basso gave them assurances if they are willing to give up their preferred race night for him! Edited December 11, 2021 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 minute ago, ray c said: lets hope we are not in the championship in 2023 neither but back where we belong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steve Shovlar Posted December 11, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 31 minutes ago, Diamonds85 said: Real shame because I really enjoyed my 2 visits to Poole last year, thought it was a brilliant track and great set up, didn't realise it was ran by a bunch of children though? Just wish the young lad good luck for the future, you didn't get what you wanted boo hoo. No need to shame him, I'm sure he's not going to bother riding for yous again, even if the scenario was different now. Hope he becomes world champ Think you will discover the Poole promotion are by the proverbial mile the best and most successful in the sport. I believe the Poole promotion spent many, many hours costing a small fortune managing to bring him to the U.K., against the wishes of the UKIP govt we currently have in power. They managed to get the lad a 2 year visa, which I have heard cost the club financially. End of the day the lads head has been turned by the big bucks offered by Glasgow. A shame. Glasgow trying to buy the league. Only chance they really have. But we all know what happens to clubs who spend a fortune on riders. Seems at the moment it’s sod what it costs, I want a title. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 25 minutes ago, BassoontheGasso said: I thought the Ford's wouldn't take too kindly to Ben's move. Nothing to do with Ben's attitude, It's just the Ford family being jealous due to them knowing how good Ben Basso is and it's totally understandable as I'd be feeling sick too if I was in the same position as them. Poole may have got the short term glory last season but they've introduced a superstar to British Speedway who'll comeback to haunt them on several occasions whilst knowing Ben will never ride for Poole permanently again due to the Wednesday race night clashes with Denmark. It's like Manchester United discovering Cristiano Ronaldo for short term success only for other clubs to reap all of the rewards in the long run. I would think that if they were that annoyed they would have said something earlier to slate Basso & Glasgow if it was "known" after the play offs that he had been tapped up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Think you will discover the Poole promotion are by the proverbial mile the best and most successful in the sport. I believe the Poole promotion spent many, many hours costing a small fortune managing to bring him to the U.K., against the wishes of the UKIP govt we currently have in power. They managed to get the lad a 2 year visa, which I have heard cost the club financially. End of the day the lads head has been turned by the big bucks offered by Glasgow. A shame. Glasgow trying to buy the league. Only chance they really have. But we all know what happens to clubs who spend a fortune on riders. Seems at the moment it’s sod what it costs, I want a title. That wasn’t a cheap Poole team last season though!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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