SteveLyric2 Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, PirateShip said: Championship Green Sheet Averages are in today's SPEEDWAY STAR ! Have Fun Shame that u will have to rummage through Pirate blah blah to get to them! We LUV U Middlo We DO! C'mon the PIRATES! If those GSAs are accurate then in Poole's case how was Basso on the Gasso (5.00) at reserve and Hume (4.98) in the 1-5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: If those GSAs are accurate then in Poole's case how was Basso on the Gasso (5.00) at reserve and Hume (4.98) in the 1-5? 2.5% reduction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 35 minutes ago, PirateShip said: Championship Green Sheet Averages are in today's SPEEDWAY STAR ! Look like the same averages as we already have i.e. still contain the Eastbourne numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: If those GSAs are accurate then in Poole's case how was Basso on the Gasso (5.00) at reserve and Hume (4.98) in the 1-5? I presume at the time they switched positions Hume was higher but by the end of the season Basso on the Gasso was scoring better at reserve. Ben would've been able to retain his reserve spot for a certain number of meetings no matter how he scored, just so happened it covered him until the end of the season. Hence the difference. Or somet like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, False dawn said: Look like the same averages as we already have i.e. still contain the Eastbourne numbers As far as I know the riders retained the points they scored against Eastbourne therefore the average is not effected. Stewart Dickson wasn't happy about it coz he said so in an interview on the centrgreen at Leicester when Leicester had been stripped of 7pts but the riders avg. stayed the same. Think it stopped him from switching his team around. To me it kind makes sense that riders still retain the pts & avg despite Eastbourne pulling out as it shows an accurate record of how the riders have been riding throughout the season. They've still ridden and been paid (hopefully) in those meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, PirateShip said: As far as I know the riders retained the points they scored against Eastbourne therefore the average is not effected. Stewart Dickson wasn't happy about it coz he said so in an interview on the centrgreen at Leicester when Leicester had been stripped of 7pts but the riders avg. stayed the same. Think it stopped him from switching his team around. To me it kind makes sense that riders still retain the pts & avg despite Eastbourne pulling out as it shows an accurate record of how the riders have been riding throughout the season. They've still ridden and been paid (hopefully) in those meetings. I get Dickson's point, but some of his riders who rode against Eastbourne have joined other teams - some averages would've gone up / some down - for all teams, doesn't just affect Leicester. Edited November 25, 2021 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 The mystery of the Green Sheet Averages continues.Dickson was the stumbling block.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I get Dickson's point, but some of his riders who rode against Eastbourne have joined other teams - some averages would've gone up / some down - for all teams, doesn't just affect Leicester. True, but I mentioned Dickson's interview to clarify to others on the forum who thought that riders' pts scored against Eastbourne wud be taken off their average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 50 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I get Dickson's point, but some of his riders who rode against Eastbourne have joined other teams - some averages would've gone up / some down - for all teams, doesn't just affect Leicester. As you say does it not more a less even out if the Eastbourne results are left in with rolling averages, some going up or down, team changes etc. I just think the worst problem is no absolute clarification, if it was announced a month ago they're definitely left in (or out) everyone would know, although gives another topic to discuss I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Jaizer said: 2.5% reduction So are you saying that all the GSAs in this week's Star have had the 2.5% reduction for Brits taken into account? I don't think so?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 35 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: So are you saying that all the GSAs in this week's Star have had the 2.5% reduction for Brits taken into account? I don't think so?! Ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 20 hours ago, Skidder1 said: So are you saying that all the GSAs in this week's Star have had the 2.5% reduction for Brits taken into account? I don't think so?! I was confused by that, Hume must have a higher ave than Basso, if he doesn't 2.5% reduction must've been used - but not for any other Brits on this list! What's going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I was confused by that, Hume must have a higher ave than Basso, if he doesn't 2.5% reduction must've been used - but not for any other Brits on this list! What's going on? Nobody knows. Even I've given up trying to work out the averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 49 minutes ago, KingoftheTrack said: Nobody knows. Even I've given up trying to work out the averages. Plus Marcin Nowak has a 6.35 CMA, but didn't do enough meetings to get an ave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 https://youtu.be/I0xZoKNh4nE Oh dear.... Sorry folks, just don't go in the forum bathroom for a few hours...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 9:27 AM, szkocjasid said: Of course it's possible to do this, wouldn't call it simple though. But if fans can work out the averages, what's the benefit of not publishing them? I've also not read anything official that states if the Eastbourne matches are removed for final averages. The rule book is pretty official 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 Talking about averages, the law of averages says Pirates will win everything again next season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, PirateShip said: Talking about averages, the law of averages says Pirates will win everything again next season! Bit cold for fishing trips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 They're still sticking with Lawson to Poole Hans Andersen z kontraktem na przyszłoroczny sezon! (speedwaynews.pl) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, KingoftheTrack said: They're still sticking with Lawson to Poole Hans Andersen z kontraktem na przyszłoroczny sezon! (speedwaynews.pl) So what was previously ' a done deal' is now only 'most likely'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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