Normski Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Heedthebaw said: Or even 8.62 These averages are very top secret pleased Berwick never raced against Eastbourne and we know ours lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Heedthebaw said: Or even 8.62 Minus 2.5% british reduction 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, KingoftheTrack said: SpeedwayGB need to release a final 2021 GSA's list at this point. They needed to do it at least a week ago tbh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 2 hours ago, KingoftheTrack said: SpeedwayGB need to release a final 2021 GSA's list at this point. An algorithm hasn't been worked out yet to handle such a complex calculation and it would be more complex than cracking the enigma code!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, PirateShip said: An algorithm hasn't been worked out yet to handle such a complex calculation and it would be more complex than cracking the enigma code!!!! I think NASA are having a go, but don't hold out any hope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 3 hours ago, szkocjasid said: They needed to do it at least a week ago tbh! Probably on 7th December - one of the few things left to agree at the AGM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 2 hours ago, gazzac said: I think NASA are having a go, but don't hold out any hope. So that's why they launched that rocket today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 31 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Probably on 7th December - one of the few things left to agree at the AGM. I don't see how they can wait till 7th Dec to agree on averages & some teams will be complete by then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I don't see how they can wait till 7th Dec to agree on averages & some teams will be complete by then You have to assume the promoters have them so why not just publish them? Mr Barrie seems to be in the know about these things makes it even more probable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 Just now, Jaizer said: You have to assume the promoters have them so why not just publish them? Mr Barrie seems to be in the know about these things makes it even more probable Could not agree more 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jaizer said: You have to assume the promoters have them so why not just publish them? Mr Barrie seems to be in the know about these things makes it even more probable But why do we need to know, still be a rumour game as to who may be going where. Next u would want the promoters to declare immediately all the riders they av actually signed. Guess u opened ur Xmas prezzies a month before Xmas day just coz ur folks knew wot they were. Ding a ling a ling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, PirateShip said: But why do we need to know, still be a rumour game as to who may be going where. Next u would want the promoters to declare immediately all the riders they av actually signed. Guess u opened ur Xmas prezzies a month before Xmas day just coz ur folks knew wot they were. Ding a ling a ling Wow, just wow. All I've got to say to that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 14 minutes ago, Jaizer said: Wow, just wow. All I've got to say to that My answer was about average minus 2.5% coz I'm a daft old sausage! Me sheets are not green though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 46 minutes ago, Jaizer said: You have to assume the promoters have them so why not just publish them? Mr Barrie seems to be in the know about these things makes it even more probable I'm sure all the promoters have them but don't want to share with the paying public just yet! To me it shouldn't be that hard to finalise, if they can sort all the team averages etc surely they have time to finalise the final averages and publish them, removing all Eastbourne fixtures from none Eastie riders averages. With my Poole hat on that will effect Danny & Cook from the first meeting of the season and Steve if he is coming back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, PirateShip said: But why do we need to know, still be a rumour game as to who may be going where. Next u would want the promoters to declare immediately all the riders they av actually signed. Guess u opened ur Xmas prezzies a month before Xmas day just coz ur folks knew wot they were. Ding a ling a ling Knowing the averages allows fans to make educated guesses on who will be in teams, not knowing the averages makes it less fun as you don't know if your "dream team" is legal! Edited November 24, 2021 by szkocjasid 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 Its really quite simple. If a rider has raced in a match for or against Eastbourne in 2021, these points and meetings are wiped out. As rolling averages are calculated over a rider's last 20 matches, to ascertain a true CMA you just need to go back and add older matches back in, to give you the rolling average over twenty meetings, to compensate for the 'loss' of the Eastborne matches. Simples! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 2 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Knowing the averages allows fans to make educated guesses on who will be in teams, not knowing the averages makes it less fun as you don't know if your "dream team" is legal! I’m quite sure if the average fan really wanted to know a riders correct average concerning Eastbourne situation and rolling average, they should be able to work it out ,given there is a formula. Personally I don’t think the Eastbourne situation should have affected a riders average,it was just another match and a true reflection of the rider.After all Teams that rode again Eastbourne probably rode against different riders given the R/r and guest situation we have in the sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 11 hours ago, crescent girl said: Its really quite simple. If a rider has raced in a match for or against Eastbourne in 2021, these points and meetings are wiped out. As rolling averages are calculated over a rider's last 20 matches, to ascertain a true CMA you just need to go back and add older matches back in, to give you the rolling average over twenty meetings, to compensate for the 'loss' of the Eastbourne matches. Simples! Of course it's possible to do this, wouldn't call it simple though. But if fans can work out the averages, what's the benefit of not publishing them? I've also not read anything official that states if the Eastbourne matches are removed for final averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 58 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Of course it's possible to do this, wouldn't call it simple though. But if fans can work out the averages, what's the benefit of not publishing them? I've also not read anything official that states if the Eastbourne matches are removed for final averages. Fans are of no interest to the powers at be,would be my answer to that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 15 hours ago, Jaizer said: You have to assume the promoters have them so why not just publish them? Mr Barrie seems to be in the know about these things makes it even more probable Championship Green Sheet Averages are in today's SPEEDWAY STAR ! Have Fun Shame that u will have to rummage through Pirate blah blah to get to them! We LUV U Middlo We DO! C'mon the PIRATES! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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