Poole 2022

[BartoszZmarzlikFan]

Ellis isn't worth a punt at all in the Championship when he's got Polish commitments. 

Look at how many meetings he missed for Scunny during his spell.

[Arthur54]

1 hour ago, Skidder1 said:

Not sure there will be any team announcements in the immediate future, while the stadium rent issue goes down the legal route.

May find out something later this week but not sure if I'll be able to share.

One thing I do know is that the planned 2022 1-7 has changed already - with the unexpected availability of a rider.

Would that rider that's become available be Hans by any chance 

[Ryan555]

8 minutes ago, KingoftheTrack said:

Ellis isn't worth a punt at all in the Championship when he's got Polish commitments. 

Look at how many meetings he missed for Scunny during his spell.

Yeah and how little he cared not sure if it may be different for Poole though ?!

[LisaColette]

14 minutes ago, Arthur54 said:

Would that rider that's become available be Hans by any chance 

More likely to be Douglas (who you said!) than Hans considering he'll be riding in Denmark Weds.

Unless there is anyone else who has become available that isn't public knowledge. 

[BartoszZmarzlikFan]

56 minutes ago, Ryan555 said:

Yeah and how little he cared not sure if it may be different for Poole though ?!

May care a little bit more but he'll still miss a few meetings and he'll probably use his poorest equipment in the Championship due to the league ranking dead last in a list of priorities imo.

So many Friday Night / Weekend tracks in the Championship now imo to be signing riders who've got contracts in Poland due to the lower leagues scattering meeting about from Friday to Sunday every week now isn't a good move.

Riders who are going to turn up every week and put in 100% should be prioritised imo. 

[mikebv]

8 hours ago, KingoftheTrack said:

So many Friday Night / Weekend tracks in the Championship now imo to be signing riders who've got contracts in Poland due to the lower leagues scattering meeting about from Friday to Sunday every week now isn't a good move.

Riders who are going to turn up every week and put in 100% should be prioritised imo. 

Correct...

But what happens in reality is that clubs sign these ridees knowing their other commitments, making sure though that they are available for most of their home matches, with the ones they miss getting covered by a decent guest using the plus 5% rule, so no issues from a team standard perspective.. 

You seem to find it is the away meetings these riders miss as the promoters of the visiting tracks earn no money that night, and their crowds are then not the ones being affected by their best known riders' non appearance....

You would simply think they would avoid fixture clashes full stop and run the sport properly without actually, pro actively as part of their operating model, planning in credibility destroying guests wouldnt you? 

Meaning every meeting, that has no missing through injury riders, gets its full complement of riders contracted to those teams and therefore becomes a proper sporting contest...

Not that simple though seemingly...

 

[CitizenTyler]

Just for giggles what would Doyles championship average be? 

[Ryan555]

16 minutes ago, CitizenTyler said:

Just for giggles what would Doyles championship average be? 

Wouldn’t qualify as his last prem average was 8.96 so times by either 1.5 or 1.6 depending on what the conversion factor is set at means it will be over 12 so impossible !

[Doners123]

19 minutes ago, Ryan555 said:

Wouldn’t qualify as his last prem average was 8.96 so times by either 1.5 or 1.6 depending on what the conversion factor is set at means it will be over 12 so impossible !

He would just be a 12. 

[Ryan555]

7 minutes ago, Doners123 said:

He would just be a 12. 

I thought he wouldn’t be allowed in ?! Suppose if he wanted to do it they would set it at 12 

[ray c]

1 hour ago, CitizenTyler said:

Just for giggles what would Doyles championship average be? 

12

[STEVEHOLS54]

If Plymouth have already named 5 riders for 2022 including both a 3* plus  a 2* rising star as well as 3 H/L, then one would assume the structure and points limits may already be agreed for 2022 ??

I notice that SO FAR Zach Cook has not been named.  Ok, still 2 places to be announced but maybe moves afoot to get Zach at Poole ??

Hope this legal battle going on to keep Poole racing at the stadium again in 2022 doesn't drag on too long as am sure riders will want plans sorted for 2022 asap. 

Interesting to see if Ryan Douglas is on the radar as he is only 0.26 of a point below Rory on the latest GSA. If we are on 41.60 points and the limit is set around 38 or even lower, than something has to give. Leicester are losing Hans A , Douglas and also Zaine Kennedy in 2022 (according to one of the main POL Speedway news sites) and have only signed 5 point Mountain (announced today on SGB) so far. Early days of course.

[Jaizer]

57 minutes ago, Doners123 said:

He would just be a 12. 

Has that changed? As we weren't able to sign Joe screen until such times as his converted average was under 12

[MartinBSN]

5 minutes ago, Jaizer said:

Has that changed? As we weren't able to sign Joe screen until such times as his converted average was under 12

Also Batch couldn't drop down this year as his converted average was above 12

[SteveLyric2]

22 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

If Plymouth have already named 5 riders for 2022 including both a 3* plus  a 2* rising star as well as 3 H/L, then one would assume the structure and points limits may already be agreed for 2022 ??

I notice that SO FAR Zach Cook has not been named.  Ok, still 2 places to be announced but maybe moves afoot to get Zach at Poole ??

Hope this legal battle going on to keep Poole racing at the stadium again in 2022 doesn't drag on too long as am sure riders will want plans sorted for 2022 asap. 

Interesting to see if Ryan Douglas is on the radar as he is only 0.26 of a point below Rory on the latest GSA. If we are on 41.60 points and the limit is set around 38 or even lower, than something has to give. Leicester are losing Hans A , Douglas and also Zaine Kennedy in 2022 (according to one of the main POL Speedway news sites) and have only signed 5 point Mountain (announced today on SGB) so far. Early days of course.

I only said 'no rider announcements in the immediate future'!  That doesn't mean that negotiations and signings are not taking place - just not being announced as if you think about it any rider announcements might influence the legal/rental negotiations which incidentally have already been going on for a month or more!!

Poole  have already stated last week that terms have been agreed with 2 riders. 

Along with the riders 'released' by Leicester/Eastbourne/Kent there are still plenty of options.

 

 

Edited November 9, 2021 by Skidder1

[ASpeedwayfan]

Zach Cook very likely to be a pirate i would think! 

[STEVEHOLS54]

4 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

I only said 'no rider announcements in the immediate future'!  That doesn't mean that negotiations and signings are not taking place - just not being announced as if you think about it any rider announcements might influence the legal/rental negotiations which incidentally have already been going on for a month or more!!

Poole  have already stated last week that terms have been agreed with 2 riders. 

Along with the riders 'released' by Leicester/Eastbourne/Kent there are still plenty of options.

 

 

Hi Skidder

Wasn't aimed in your direction .

My comments were aimed more at could the promoters have already agreed on structure/points limits & if any changes to if 1 or 2 rising stars for season 2022. Also the fact that so far Zach has not been named in the 5 named Plymouth riders which a bit of a surprise (if he was staying) considering how low his GSA is, and the fact they have 2 rising stars named in the 5 so far. We all know Zach is a potential upward mover on that 4.40 GSA. His Poole guest scores alone prove that plus he improved in the later part of the season. Let's hope we can get him 

My only concern on the legal battle was if like many UK legal situations it dragged on well in to 2022 which not great for the Club/riders or us supporters.

I am sure Danny/Matt have things well in hand.  I am soooo glad I was wrong in how things were going at one stage earlier. So pleased I was wrong big time 

Knowing the points limit and rising star situation would make the close season name next seasons team game much more interesting and better . I mean for those of us not so close to any inside info .

[ray c]

37 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

Hi Skidder

Wasn't aimed in your direction .

My comments were aimed more at could the promoters have already agreed on structure/points limits & if any changes to if 1 or 2 rising stars for season 2022. Also the fact that so far Zach has not been named in the 5 named Plymouth riders which a bit of a surprise (if he was staying) considering how low his GSA is, and the fact they have 2 rising stars named in the 5 so far. We all know Zach is a potential upward mover on that 4.40 GSA. His Poole guest scores alone prove that plus he improved in the later part of the season. Let's hope we can get him 

My only concern on the legal battle was if like many UK legal situations it dragged on well in to 2022 which not great for the Club/riders or us supporters.

I am sure Danny/Matt have things well in hand.  I am soooo glad I was wrong in how things were going at one stage earlier. So pleased I was wrong big time 

Knowing the points limit and rising star situation would make the close season name next seasons team game much more interesting and better . I mean for those of us not so close to any inside info .

surely poole speedway and stadia uk are talking /whats the point in putting team together if you got no where to race oh hang on oxford are looking for promotor 

[Wee Eck]

32 minutes ago, ray c said:

surely poole speedway and stadia uk are talking /whats the point in putting team together if you got no where to race oh hang on oxford are looking for promotor 

I thought Oxford already had a promoter? The name Courtney was being bandied about before but I wasn’t sure if it was Sean, Scott, Jamie or even Mark. But I’d guess it to be the one who lives closest. As long as it’s not John. That would be totally farcical. And not at all honest 

[ray c]

18 minutes ago, Wee Eck said:

I thought Oxford already had a promoter? The name Courtney was being bandied about before but I wasn’t sure if it was Sean, Scott, Jamie or even Mark. But I’d guess it to be the one who lives closest. As long as it’s not John. That would be totally farcical. And not at all honest 

You must remember this the funny season in speedway anything can happen