Jaizer Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 The council want them there, it's in an industrial estate which, from memory, is pretty far from the nearest housing scheme. It's using up ground probably otherwise been left abandoned and overgrown. What's to object to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 Great news Edinburgh are sorted for next season. The management must have been working 20 hours a day to find the land, get all relevant planning permissions signed off, an architect to submit stadium designs, company to manufacture stadium, and get the track in place. All going to be done in 9 months. Scotland clearly has a better system in place compared to England where it would take numerous council meetings, planning meetings by the dozen with a complaints process etc and lots of NIMBYS. To get past all that is remarkable so I doff my cap to the Edinburgh management. So pleased to hear the Monarchs will be at tapes for 2023, along with Workington, Eastbourne and hopefully Swindon returning. Great stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 44 minutes ago, sidewinder said: Redcar, was up and running , in 16 weeks. 18 weeks from granting of planning consent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 Has planning been granted at this new Edinburgh site? With a clean canvas the management have the opportunity to put in another Belle Vue of the north, albeit on a smaller scale. As long as they keep that David Hemsley away from marking the track out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, arnieg said: 18 weeks from granting of planning consent. Yeah that will be right. I was stating from when it was made public knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Has planning been granted at this new Edinburgh site? With a clean canvas the management have the opportunity to put in another Belle Vue of the north, albeit on a smaller scale. As long as they keep that David Hemsley away from marking the track out! Quite right. Maybe they could get Chris Morton to help out. Listening to him and how he helped recreate the old Hyde Road circuit when they built the NSS was fascinating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, False dawn said: Quite right. Maybe they could get Chris Morton to help out. Listening to him and how he helped recreate the old Hyde Road circuit when they built the NSS was fascinating. Doc Bridget has helped with design of the track, one of the best in the business so we’re in safe hands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 3 hours ago, MattB said: Fair enough, but even a very basic stadium would need planning permission, which is generally known to involve reams of red tape. Look at Belle Vue, which took almost ten years from the plans being unveiled and the first meeting and the opening night that almost never happened. Do you think Edinburgh would announce this and have plans and drawings done without thinking about planning permission? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) Some relevant points disclosed by the Projector Director have been reported in the Edinburgh Evening News include:- "Prospective buyers of the vacant site at Deans must submit their proposals to West Lothian Council no later than July 28" "There is a process through the council where they select their bidder and that is ratified, so all of that will happen in the next couple of months." "Through word of mouth there is competition for the site but we believe we have a strong case" As the above confirms, the Promotion have been transparent in their Proposal & Plans, that acquiring the site, together with appropriate planning permission, is not yet a fait accompli. Personally I'm highly impressed with their approach, which will hopefully encourage all fans to support this either financially or with other means of assistance. Reported feedback from local councillors indicates they are aware of the local community initiatives that the Club have been involved in for many years, and hopefully these will be considered favourably when a final decision on who is offered the site is taken. Edited June 30, 2022 by cyclone 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 So they haven’t yet acquired the land to build the stadium and there is competition from other businesses to acquire the land? Fingers crossed these other businesses don’t have deeper pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: So they haven’t yet acquired the land to build the stadium and there is competition from other businesses to acquire the land? Fingers crossed these other businesses don’t have deeper pockets. From what I heard the land was put up for sale for us to purchase. The closing date and things like that are just part of the process I believe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 10 hours ago, tyretrax said: Do you think Edinburgh would announce this and have plans and drawings done without thinking about planning permission? But with the best will in the world it can still be a time consuming process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattB Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: So they haven’t yet acquired the land to build the stadium and there is competition from other businesses to acquire the land? Fingers crossed these other businesses don’t have deeper pockets. Exactly my point. Edinburgh have jumped the gun here and its led to people believing its in the bag when it's anything but 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 British speedway fans eh? In 24 hours only positive story in months is shot down into negativity 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrickn Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 After having a go at Workington,this Shovlar fellow now seems to be calling Edinburgh out.Hope he gets the same response as he got from Workington. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickinho Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 The new stadium plans look great, i'll miss Armadale though. Hope they keep the finishing line pyrotechnics machine, i really like that touch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, MattB said: Exactly my point. Edinburgh have jumped the gun here and its led to people believing its in the bag when it's anything but In what way have Edinburgh jumped the gun? They have publicised their proposals they are submitting and thereby making their fanbase full aware of the situation. This gives the fans the opportunity to support the application in advance, be it financial assistance, lobbying local councillors, etc. Nothing wrong with that approach which are commonplace with those who are seeking permission to introduce new developments. As I previously stated, the Promotion have acknowledged the planning deadlines and that there are probably other interested parties in acquiring the site, so how has it led to people believing its in the bag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 As long as Lidl or Aldi don’t get wind of a bit of land available. If I was landowner and they offered more, then sorry Edinburgh Speedway, match it or get ready for center isle food blenders and size 42 stretch jeans. Of course we all want Edinburgh speedway to continue but never heard of a club announcing they are racing next season when they haven’t even purchased the land and got planning permissions in place. With all the goodwill in the world it’s going to be stretching it buying the land, getting permissions and building a stadium. Unless it’s a portacabin and scaffold terraces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Derrickn said: After having a go at Workington,this Shovlar fellow now seems to be calling Edinburgh out.Hope he gets the same response as he got from Workington. Because I spoke the truth and the guy that slagged me off on the Workington thread has just admitted what I said was correct? ( Fans standing up to ten metres back from track) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 Just now, Steve Shovlar said: Because I spoke the truth and the guy that slagged me off on the Workington thread has just admitted what I said was correct? ( Fans standing up to ten metres back from track) No you said at all places fans can stand. As John's post on Workington post shows at some areas will be 3, some 5 and some 10m. So no you are not correct 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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