4thbender Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Trees said: There's a track there .... I could understand riders basing themselves in the town if there was a French National Speedway Stadium in the locality, but these riders were born there. What could explain that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, 4thbender said: Speaking of which, how many French speedway riders do people know? I've been checking a few things.... David Bellego, born 15 May 1993, Marmande, France;Dimitri Berge, born 5 February, 1996, Marmande, France;Adam Ellis, born 21 March 1996, Marmande, France;Steven Goret, born 15 June 2002, Marmande, France. What is it about Marmande (a nondescript little town on the Garonne, 35 miles south east of Bordeaux)? In a country that has no cultural history of speedway - no league, no teams - how come four top-drawer riders should emerge from a complete backwater?... and all born in the first half of the year. What goes on there? It makes me wonder whether some speedway icon of the 70's and 80's bought himself a holiday home in the town after his retirement from the sport and spent the summer months in the 90's servicing the romantic needs of the local maidens, thus spawning an entire dynasty of top-notch speedway riders for the 2020's. Thoughts anyone? Thierry hillaire....now he was class......!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, 4thbender said: Speaking of which, how many French speedway riders do people know? I've been checking a few things.... David Bellego, born 15 May 1993, Marmande, France;Dimitri Berge, born 5 February, 1996, Marmande, France;Adam Ellis, born 21 March 1996, Marmande, France;Steven Goret, born 15 June 2002, Marmande, France. What is it about Marmande (a nondescript little town on the Garonne, 35 miles south east of Bordeaux)? In a country that has no cultural history of speedway - no league, no teams - how come four top-drawer riders should emerge from a complete backwater?... and all born in the first half of the year. What goes on there? It makes me wonder whether some speedway icon of the 70's and 80's bought himself a holiday home in the town after his retirement from the sport and spent the summer months in the 90's servicing the romantic needs of the local maidens, thus spawning an entire dynasty of top-notch speedway riders for the 2020's. Thoughts anyone? The Grasstrack there? A very big and fast track... The type the French seem to like to ride in Speedway. Maybe that is where so many learn to ride a Grass/Speedway bike? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, Moranboys said: Thierry hillaire....now he was class......!!!! Someone called "Ashie" mentioned on this Forum under the thread "Who Is The Worst Rider Ever To Ride For Your Team?" in 2006 "Thierry Hillaire... was billed as top French international, but his first race and he more or less forgot to turn to left at the first bend." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spin king Posted October 28, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 6 hours ago, Moranboys said: Where have I put that I didn't like him?just that as a package he's not ideal. Not the full package? Only Jack Holder, Dan Bewley and Sam Masters managed the higher average last season. 50% of all his rides for Sheffield were either winning races or paid wins. He is British and qualifies for a reduction on his average. He is on record as wanting to comeback to the club next season He will do for me. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 3 hours ago, 4thbender said: I could understand riders basing themselves in the town if there was a French National Speedway Stadium in the locality, but these riders were born there. What could explain that? I used to race sidecars in Europe under the same sponsorship umbrella as Dinitri’s father Phillipe. Dimi and Adam were born in the same hospital a few months apart and have been friends most of their lives. They, along with David Bellego have all known each other a long time and hang out and train together in the closed season. This part of France has been the hotbed of French grass track for over 70 years, there is a fledgling speedway league which has now been running for a few years and is going from strength to strength. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 Think you need your head checking if you wouldn't have Ellis back next season. Was one of the very few good things about last season. I'd hope we'd be looking at bringing back Berge as well. Was a while ago now but I thought he was absolutely class round owlerton when he rode for us and I don't think we'd get much better riders on a 4.14 average. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, spin king junior said: Think you need your head checking if you wouldn't have Ellis back next season. Was one of the very few good things about last season. I'd hope we'd be looking at bringing back Berge as well. Was a while ago now but I thought he was absolutely class round owlerton when he rode for us and I don't think we'd get much better riders on a 4.14 average. Thought bellago was better plus berge is too temperamental....sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 13 hours ago, Jonny the spud said: I used to race sidecars in Europe under the same sponsorship umbrella as Dinitri’s father Phillipe. Dimi and Adam were born in the same hospital a few months apart and have been friends most of their lives. They, along with David Bellego have all known each other a long time and hang out and train together in the closed season. This part of France has been the hotbed of French grass track for over 70 years, there is a fledgling speedway league which has now been running for a few years and is going from strength to strength. Guess that explains the conundrum, but why, when speedway has such a powerful foundation locally, has it not spread wider in France? When I was there in my student days my raving about the joys of speedway were simply met by blank stares. It didn’t even have a name – I used to have to describe it as “les courses de la piste en cindré.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Maybe there will be a new speedway dynasty starting near to Limoges at some point in the future?! Maybe the 'Briance' dynasty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 It’s always been here in the south west of France. There are certain races from time to time elsewhere but it doesn’t catch on. remember, we have 6x the landmass of the UK. here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 On 10/29/2021 at 11:44 PM, Jonny the spud said: It’s always been here in the south west of France. There are certain races from time to time elsewhere but it doesn’t catch on. remember, we have 6x the landmass of the UK. here Are there any more riders lined up on the conveyor belt that runs through that sleepy French town? I'm sure there are a number of British promoters willing to stake a claim based on the evidence of past graduates of the Marmande machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 Seen on Facebook that next STAARS meeting is Thursday November 11th. Anyone tell me? is there usually some question and answer session, and what time does it normally start. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlieboy Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 4 hours ago, RS50 said: Seen on Facebook that next STAARS meeting is Thursday November 11th. Anyone tell me? is there usually some question and answer session, and what time does it normally start. Thanks Usually there are riders or promotors drop in for a question and answer evening. Peter mole Steady and Kyle are pretty regular at these meetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 4 hours ago, RS50 said: Seen on Facebook that next STAARS meeting is Thursday November 11th. Anyone tell me? is there usually some question and answer session, and what time does it normally start. Thanks Only ever been to 2 STAARS meetings. They usually have at least one person from the club attend, Peter Mole is nearly always there. They have had some sort of Q/A when I have been but like I say I have only ever been twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 How about? 2021 team building rules! Sheffield Jack Holder 8.68 Brady Kurtz 7.35 Josh Pickering.7.06 Kyle Howarth 6.03 Danyon Hume 3.26 Stefan Nielsen 3.11 Dan Thompson 4* Total 35.49 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSS1 Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: How about? 2021 team building rules! Sheffield Jack Holder 8.68 Brady Kurtz 7.35 Josh Pickering.7.06 Kyle Howarth 6.03 Danyon Hume 3.26 Stefan Nielsen 3.11 Dan Thompson 4* Total 35.49 next year is 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, NSS1 said: next year is 2022 I know, but I don't know the rules so having to use 2021s rules! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers99 Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 23 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: How about? 2021 team building rules! Sheffield Jack Holder 8.68 Brady Kurtz 7.35 Josh Pickering.7.06 Kyle Howarth 6.03 Danyon Hume 3.26 Stefan Nielsen 3.11 Dan Thompson 4* Total 35.49 Think Steady will learn from this season and not have rubbishe reserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Panthers99 said: Think Steady will learn from this season and not have rubbishe reserves. I agree the bottom end looks very weak, hoping the points limit is raised for 2022! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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