4thbender Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 hour ago, lisa-colette said: Good point but maybe you are forgetting if you have a good season they bring in rules to break teams up! So maybe 3/4 depending what averages are like. There are no rules that I know of which might prevent Sheffield from signing up the six riders named, plus a seventh rider whose average takes the total team averages up to whatever points limit is agreed. Perhaps some of the mathematicians on this forum might do the sums to tell us who that seventh rider might be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 hour ago, 4thbender said: How’s this for a principle: if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. The present riders (with a single exception) served us well in 2021. Why not keep that team together? There is only one rider who consistently let us down who needs to be replaced. The other six I would be very pleased to see retained. Remember – Sheffield is the only team that could go the eventual champions and beat them by 12 points. TB scored 7 + 1 on that occasion; replace him with a rider that can do that on a regular basis and we’d have a team that could threaten all comers. My team would therefore be:Jack Holder Adam Ellis AN Other Josh Pickering Kyle Howarth Stefan Nielsen Danyon Hume To be honest,this is who I would have back....... J.holder Josh.p Kyle.h Stefan.n Danyon.h Although Adam is a decent rider,he's too inconsistent and tends to fall a fair bit. I like batch but he certainly has an issue riding for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 Adam a decent rider? ... he's the British champ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 Just now, 4thbender said: Adam a decent rider? ... he's the British champ! And all the wins pretty much due to his rolling starts....that's another issue I have with him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 Say what you want but I'd rather have him inside the tent pi55ing out than outside the tent pi55ing in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 4thbender said: Adam a decent rider? ... he's the British champ! So were Danny King and Charles Wright in recent years, also “decent” riders. Being British champion doesn’t necessarily elevate you to anything more than that. Edited October 27, 2021 by Arch Stanton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Moranboys said: To be honest,this is who I would have back....... J.holder Josh.p Kyle.h Stefan.n Danyon.h Although Adam is a decent rider,he's too inconsistent and tends to fall a fair bit. I like batch but he certainly has an issue riding for us. What? Adam inconsistent? Really? Yet you would keep Stefan Nielsen who has had a significant amount of time out injured just about every season since he started?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: So were Danny King and Charles Wright in recent years, also “decent” riders. Being British champion doesn’t necessarily elevate you to anything more than that. It elevates you to the level of being demonstrably able to compete (and win) at the highest level in British speedway. Just the kind of rider any sensible team manager would want in their side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 6 hours ago, Moranboys said: To be honest,this is who I would have back....... J.holder Josh.p Kyle.h Stefan.n Danyon.h Although Adam is a decent rider,he's too inconsistent and tends to fall a fair bit. I like batch but he certainly has an issue riding for us. Yeah that broken back last year when he was taken out from behind in Croatia. Totally his fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 7 hours ago, 4thbender said: Say what you want but I'd rather have him inside the tent pi55ing out than outside the tent pi55ing in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 And could end up pi55ing away any chance of a trophy for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Steve0 said: What? Adam inconsistent? Really? Yet you would keep Stefan Nielsen who has had a significant amount of time out injured just about every season since he started?!?!? Yes I would...he also doesn't roll at the start either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 7 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: So were Danny King and Charles Wright in recent years, also “decent” riders. Being British champion doesn’t necessarily elevate you to anything more than that. Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 43 minutes ago, Jonny the spud said: Yeah that broken back last year when he was taken out from behind in Croatia. Totally his fault Obviously not,but not taken out all the time.sern him fall of his own accord quite a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 Alright we get it, you don't like Adam Ellis... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Alright we get it, you don't like Adam Ellis... Where have I put that I didn't like him?just that as a package he's not ideal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 11 hours ago, Jonny the spud said: Yeah that broken back last year when he was taken out from behind in Croatia. Totally his fault Methinks that Bordeaux-based Jonny the Spud might have more than a passing interest in the welfare of Marmande's most famous speedway son. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 21 hours ago, Moranboys said: And all the wins pretty much due to his rolling starts....that's another issue I have with him. If he gets away with it then continue. C Cook been doing it for years, also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 hours ago, 4thbender said: Methinks that Bordeaux-based Jonny the Spud might have more than a passing interest in the welfare of Marmande's most famous speedway son. Speaking of which, how many French speedway riders do people know? I've been checking a few things.... David Bellego, born 15 May 1993, Marmande, France;Dimitri Berge, born 5 February, 1996, Marmande, France;Adam Ellis, born 21 March 1996, Marmande, France;Steven Goret, born 15 June 2002, Marmande, France. What is it about Marmande (a nondescript little town on the Garonne, 35 miles south east of Bordeaux)? In a country that has no cultural history of speedway - no league, no teams - how come four top-drawer riders should emerge from a complete backwater?... and all born in the first half of the year. What goes on there? It makes me wonder whether some speedway icon of the 70's and 80's bought himself a holiday home in the town after his retirement from the sport and spent the summer months in the 90's servicing the romantic needs of the local maidens, thus spawning an entire dynasty of top-notch speedway riders for the 2020's. Thoughts anyone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 44 minutes ago, 4thbender said: Speaking of which, how many French speedway riders do people know? I've been checking a few things.... David Bellego, born 15 May 1993, Marmande, France;Dimitri Berge, born 5 February, 1996, Marmande, France;Adam Ellis, born 21 March 1996, Marmande, France;Steven Goret, born 15 June 2002, Marmande, France. What is it about Marmande (a nondescript little town on the Garonne, 35 miles south east of Bordeaux)? In a country that has no cultural history of speedway - no league, no teams - how come four top-drawer riders should emerge from a complete backwater?... and all born in the first half of the year. What goes on there? It makes me wonder whether some speedway icon of the 70's and 80's bought himself a holiday home in the town after his retirement from the sport and spent the summer months in the 90's servicing the romantic needs of the local maidens, thus spawning an entire dynasty of top-notch speedway riders for the 2020's. Thoughts anyone? There's a track there .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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