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On 7/11/2022 at 2:40 PM, arnieg said:

One of the problems with the reduction in no. of matches on which GSAs are based. 

All things being equal a team whose GSAs are based on 7 home and 3 away is likely to have a higher combined total than one with 3 home and 7 away.

Over 20 matches that was far less of an issue.

And the make up of the ten meetings is another factor. Some teams race lower table opponents twice in the final ten meetings, so potentially more points and a higher average. While Newcastle' s results have been expunged from the league table, the points riders scored against them remain in the books and in some cases will feature in a teams last ten meetings used for GSA calculation, certainly for Leicester, possibly others too. Ten meetings is too small a sample to be used for 2023 team planning. 

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7 hours ago, Beirao said:

And the make up of the ten meetings is another factor. Some teams race lower table opponents twice in the final ten meetings, so potentially more points and a higher average. While Newcastle' s results have been expunged from the league table, the points riders scored against them remain in the books and in some cases will feature in a teams last ten meetings used for GSA calculation, certainly for Leicester, possibly others too. Ten meetings is too small a sample to be used for 2023 team planning. 

Clearly they didn't think it through when planning the rule change!

Also compare a rider like Joe Thompson's last 10 matches in the team vs reserve. The difference could be anywhere between 3.00-6.00!

 

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On 7/11/2022 at 4:28 PM, Sings4Speedway said:

Theres a lot of dodgy rules about. Personally i think that unattached riders should be issued an average just as attached riders are once the number of meetings are achieved

Don't really know how Jody was signed in and out of the Chargers (28 day replacement or full signing) either way at NDL level theres too many rules and regs to jump through. 

Not sure that's a good idea. Let's say an unattached rider is likely to get a 3.5 ave, then after riding a 4th match, he'll no longer be able to guest for an injured 3.00 rider (or replace them) so may have to sit out the rest of the season, while a 2.75 rider can continue to guest!

Wouldn't affect someone like Jody Scott so much as I'm sure half the clubs in the league would sign him up before his average shoots up!

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7 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Not sure that's a good idea. Let's say an unattached rider is likely to get a 3.5 ave, then after riding a 4th match, he'll no longer be able to guest for an injured 3.00 rider (or replace them) so may have to sit out the rest of the season, while a 2.75 rider can continue to guest!

Wouldn't affect someone like Jody Scott so much as I'm sure half the clubs in the league would sign him up before his average shoots up!

The problem is / was that it could be possible for an unattached rider to puck and choose meetings that suited them, ride and rack up big points (affecting results) and would still remain a 3.00 rider for next season. 

If a rider decared in a side has a decent start or run of home/easier fixtures they could easily up thier average and then get dropped/frozen out.

Ultimately if your points count towards the match result and are affecting the averages of others it should affect that riders too. Ive seen/heard that the points should applied to Jody but time will tell.

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8 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Clearly they didn't think it through when planning the rule change!

Also compare a rider like Joe Thompson's last 10 matches in the team vs reserve. The difference could be anywhere between 3.00-6.00!

 

It’s seems every time they make rule changes it just complicates matters.That’s Speedway though.

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14 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said:

The problem is / was that it could be possible for an unattached rider to puck and choose meetings that suited them, ride and rack up big points (affecting results) and would still remain a 3.00 rider for next season. 

If a rider decared in a side has a decent start or run of home/easier fixtures they could easily up thier average and then get dropped/frozen out.

Ultimately if your points count towards the match result and are affecting the averages of others it should affect that riders too. Ive seen/heard that the points should applied to Jody but time will tell.

If that's the case all guest appearances should count for averages & not just unnattached riders.

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7 hours ago, Gringo said:

British U-19 Final at Redcar Thursday 21/7/22 at 7.30 p.m.

Leon must be favourite for this meeting but he is carrying a back injury.

If you cannot attend this is being streamed.

 

 

Just looked at lineup he's definitely the standout rider 

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10 hours ago, Gringo said:

British U-19 Final at Redcar Thursday 21/7/22 at 7.30 p.m.

Leon must be favourite for this meeting but he is carrying a back injury.

If you cannot attend this is being streamed.

 

 

In addition to Leon -- starting a run of nine meetings in ten days, as he told us last Saturday -- Ace Pijper is also in tonight's field.

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15 hours ago, screm said:

I would say it would be more of a shock if Leon didn't win this meeting, as you say he is the stand out rider in the line up.

The pre-meeting stand out as you say, but on track he had to work hard, not least when faced with Jake Mulford, who was excellent value, coming from the back several times -- although in Heat 19, Leon certainly showed Jake the way home!

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