Steve Irving Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 1 hour ago, ouch said: If that’s the case then why in previous seasons, teams that ran challenge fixtures still had to wait until 25% of league fixtures had been run before being allowed to make changes? By the way, I’d like an answer to my question. I’ll answer it. Once again you’re talking absolute bollo(ks and plucking completely wrong statements out of your ar$e to suit your agenda. There was no 25% rule in previous seasons, evidenced by Lynn booting Craig Cook this time last year after 2 meetings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 Season starts here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 11 hours ago, lisa-colette said: I know I did lol. I just made a similar comparison where your opinion is completely different. Just interesting! Can you enlighten me? What rider did Poole sign at the start of a season on a short term contract and then release before the official “transfer window”? If there isn’t one then there is no comparison to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 15 hours ago, Call me wolfie said: Jealous, haha, you’re funny. What you’re trying to say is if the boot was on the other foot and Wolves had signed Freddy or Tai in the same situation you would be overjoyed. Pull the other one! To be fair Wolfie when Wolves signed Tai for the play offs only which did us no favours my thought was fair play to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 1 hour ago, hyderd said: 25% of league matches, plain English. end of. Which hasn't happened but the initial declaration and the start of the season has.... With this comment you have just confirmed that the regulation hasn't been enforced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 2 hours ago, ouch said: If that’s the case then why in previous seasons, teams that ran challenge fixtures still had to wait until 25% of league fixtures had been run before being allowed to make changes? The rules are simple and very clear on this one and it’s terribly embarrassing to see such stupidity displayed on these pages. By the way, I’d like an answer to my question. There has never been a 25% regulation in previous years Don't worry I forgive you for your stupidity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 2 hours ago, ouch said: If that’s the case then why in previous seasons, teams that ran challenge fixtures still had to wait until 25% of league fixtures had been run before being allowed to make changes? The rules are simple and very clear on this one and it’s terribly embarrassing to see such stupidity displayed on these pages. By the way, I’d like an answer to my question. Don’t put yourself down! We all make mistakes.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BV66 Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 On the BSPL website 20th March 2022, it states Douglas wins season opener, so that is when the 2022 season started, therefore BV should not have been allowed to change their then declared team until 25% of the League fixtures had been run. Also BV seasons opener was the Peter Craven, 21st March 2022, as the BSPL site said "Belle Vue launch their season with the Peter Craven". Therefore the season does not start at the first League meeting. It will, be interesting if the regulations are now changed, before the start of 2023 season, otherwise all teams will be using this ruling to make late changes to their declared teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 47 minutes ago, bellevueace said: To be fair Wolfie when Wolves signed Tai for the play offs only which did us no favours my thought was fair play to them. But a lot of people weren’t happy and still go on about it now. By the way, it wasn’t just for the playoffs, he rode for us for 5 or 6 meetings prior to the playoffs as well, which, by current rules, would still be allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, BV66 said: On the BSPL website 20th March 2022, it states Douglas wins season opener, so that is when the 2022 season started, therefore BV should not have been allowed to change their then declared team until 25% of the League fixtures had been run. Also BV seasons opener was the Peter Craven, 21st March 2022, as the BSPL site said "Belle Vue launch their season with the Peter Craven". Therefore the season does not start at the first League meeting. It will, be interesting if the regulations are now changed, before the start of 2023 season, otherwise all teams will be using this ruling to make late changes to their declared teams. Really dont understand how important "not changing your line up" is to so many... It's the very essence of sport to try and improve... The line ups change ad hoc somewhere virtually every day/night from Monday to Sunday anyway so what does it really matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 Drink them tears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BV66 Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 24 minutes ago, mikebv said: Really dont understand how important "not changing your line up" is to so many... It's the very essence of sport to try and improve... The line ups change ad hoc somewhere virtually every day/night from Monday to Sunday anyway so what does it really matter? I agree it does not really matter in speedway, but if you have rules/regulations they should be clear and concise, and adhered to. Even football have Transfer Windows. Perhaps speedway could do with a squad system, which has been discussed many times. A lot of changes to teams are regularly made, for injuries, missing riders etc. a lot depends on who is available to fill those gaps when teams need a replacement. League Titles have been won, using R/R or guests. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BV66 Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 34 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: Drink them tears I do hope Phil that the above comment doesn't backfire on you after today's meeting. A lot of BV fans seem to think that BV will now romp to big wins, could be closer than a lot think. Enjoy the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 51 minutes ago, mikebv said: Really dont understand how important "not changing your line up" is to so many... It's the very essence of sport to try and improve... The line ups change ad hoc somewhere virtually every day/night from Monday to Sunday anyway so what does it really matter? I thought your last paragraph did matter to you.Or that's what I seem to get from some of your posts as to one of the reasons you don't attend so often now.Unless I am thinking of someone else 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Call me wolfie said: But a lot of people weren’t happy and still go on about it now. By the way, it wasn’t just for the playoffs, he rode for us for 5 or 6 meetings prior to the playoffs as well, which, by current rules, would still be allowed. No doubt we will see quite a few changes as the season progresses, with the play off system it's now not about the team you start with but the team you finish with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, bellevueace said: No doubt we will see quite a few changes as the season progresses, with the play off system it's now not about the team you start with but the team you finish with. Absolutely, unfortunately the BSPA created this situation by allowing a temporary 28 day signing in the first place, so then had no choice but to allow Zagar to sign. I was always under the impression a temporary 28 day signing was a facility for a named rider. I guess as with all things speedway related, the rules aren’t that clear in the first place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 26 minutes ago, BV66 said: I do hope Phil that the above comment doesn't backfire on you after today's meeting. A lot of BV fans seem to think that BV will now romp to big wins, could be closer than a lot think. Enjoy the meeting. Never gonna get massive wins at BV, not really much home advantage (like Redcar). But BV a lot more likely to beat Peterborough and Sheffield at home and get league points away from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 1 hour ago, PhilTheAce said: Drink them tears Continuing to repeat this particular comment does you no credit Phil We know you have knowledge and contacts and many look to your input as an important gauge of fact or fiction in certain situations Smug trolling is beneath you 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Continuing to repeat this particular comment does you no credit Phil We know you have knowledge and contacts and many look to your input as an important gauge of fact or fiction in certain situations Smug trolling is beneath you Tbh he did a similar thing to me when discussing Southampton's 9-1 loss to Man Utd the other season on twitter. He just can't debate properly! Especially when put out a very well reasoned argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 2 hours ago, BV66 said: I do hope Phil that the above comment doesn't backfire on you after today's meeting. A lot of BV fans seem to think that BV will now romp to big wins, could be closer than a lot think. Enjoy the meeting. You were saying…. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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