PhilTheAce Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, tellboy said: Could averages come into play when changes are to happen again.This could scupper things,if things take longer than expected. Averages don't count in cup matches I think Edited March 25, 2022 by PhilTheAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: Averages don't count in cup matches I think And even if they did you could change the team just before they came in to effect, even Lemon could work that one out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: Averages don't count in cup matches I think Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 10 hours ago, foreverblue said: Because you would have expected a Belle Vue rider to win, surely Fricke should beat Toft, don't know why you would mention Poole fans!! Give over mate you were trying to insuate that we would be bitter because we lost the league to Peterborough, hence you said " a Panthers rider". For the record MPT has always been good value around the NSS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 57 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: They are a high calibre of rider. Would you pay, say tungate the same money as you would pay tai or Dan??? Supply and Demand.... Amazing how much your value an increase when you are the only alternative... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, foreverblue said: I expect they thought it would be unlikely to turn over the best team in the league over two legs so get a cheaper option for the cup and gives them longer to consider their options going forward. Jake is a good rider and very capable of putting a point on his current average so it could be Etheridge that is replaced later in the season,not sure if it is good for the team to have riders competing against each other though. That's what a team sport should be about though.. Pressure for your place... In UK Speedway you do seem to get a job for life regardless of performance.. As even if you get replaced, invariably you walk into another team place somewhere else. In fact, perversely, the worse you do can mean your own personal gain in the long run... Having pressure for your place can only help the team in my opinion as it means team members have to perform consistently well to maintain that job... Edited March 25, 2022 by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldace Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, mikebv said: hat's what a team sport should be about though.. Pressure for your place... In UK Speedway you do seem to get a job for life regardless of performance.. As even if you get replaced, invariably you walk into another team place somewhere else. In fact, perversely, the worse you do can mean your own personal gain in the long run... Having pressure for your place can only help the team in my opinion as it means team members have to perform consistently well to maintain that job... I think that this is right and possibly, over the past few seasons, there has been maybe too much security of place with us. If there is a more appropriate rider lined up for the league matches, as has been suggested, then it's better that pressure is on both Allen and Etheridge for the remaining place. Rather than Jake Allen knowing that he only has four weeks and then he will be replaced come what may. Maybe we are becoming more like Poole! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, mikebv said: That's what a team sport should be about though.. Pressure for your place... In UK Speedway you do seem to get a job for life regardless of performance.. As even if you get replaced, invariably you walk into another team place somewhere else. In fact, perversely, the worse you do can mean your own personal gain in the long run... Having pressure for your place can only help the team in my opinion as it means team members have to perform consistently well to maintain that job... Yes everyone should have to perform to keep their place, Poole were often criticized for team changes when a rider was under performing but if you don't perform you should get the sack, it is just that if you have two riders competing against each other in the same team they won't help each other and team spirit could suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 3 hours ago, PhilTheAce said: Jake allen confirmed on a 4 week temp contract while we look for a heat leader My guess is he's found that 3rd heat leader but due to the lateness of the deal he's paying over the odds for him so they are going to use the cheaper allen for the cup matches and then bring in the née riders for the league campaign. And he will replace whoever was the worst between jye and allen Is Jye on a short-term (4 week) contract too then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 Sounds like they're waiting for NKI's time at KL to come to an end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castrolargh Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Col said: Sounds like they're waiting for NKI's time at KL to come to an end. PuK has already said he cant race over here once his teams on the continent get going due to the polish rules, otherwise I would assume lynn would have kept hold of him( gutted they cant ) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 30 minutes ago, Col said: Sounds like they're waiting for NKI's time at KL to come to an end. No 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 51 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Is Jye on a short-term (4 week) contract too then? No, but does that matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 37 minutes ago, castrolargh said: PuK has already said he cant race over here once his teams on the continent get going due to the polish rules, otherwise I would assume lynn would have kept hold of him( gutted they cant ) You never know. One suspects that if Iversen starts well for Lynn, it will be hard for both parties to replace him. Obviously we will see though. regarding Belle Vues mess of team building , even with Allen they still look a half decent side which could be worrying for other sides considering they have room to sign another top rider after a few weeks . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickinho Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 Lemon's had five months to sign 7 riders and is the only team manager out of 25 clubs across the three leagues who has failed to complete a team. It seems he continually gets rewarded for failure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 he gambled on being able to sign Bewley - if he had missed out on him what would you be saying then? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Nickinho said: Lemon's had five months to sign 7 riders and is the only team manager out of 25 clubs across the three leagues who has failed to complete a team. It seems he continually gets rewarded for failure. Errrm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickinho Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, topaz325 said: Errrm wrong. How am i wrong? Jake Allen is technically just an emergency signing. Or were you talking about Lemon's constant failure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: Is Jye on a short-term (4 week) contract too then? All riders are short term if they underperform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 Birmingham recently completed , Plymouth still not complete last time I looked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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