Bradford Ace Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Bewley signing now announced by Smederna so that’s the end of him at Belle Vue for now. Gutting for all BV fans after watching him progress from the Colts reserve to the Aces No1 in 5 seasons. Presumably paves the way to a Fricke return for 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Chris Harris and Scott Nicholls never turned their back on British Speedway. The modern era of riders only care about money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 minute ago, KeirStarmerFan said: Chris Harris and Scott Nicholls never turned their back on British Speedway. The modern era of riders only care about money. I think Scott Nicholls tried to before but had to come back in the end. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 31 minutes ago, KeirStarmerFan said: How does Swedish Speedway have so much money behind it? Crowds are not better than England. No rents, good sponsors, money from crowds a bonus ...... similar to Poland probs ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Trees said: No rents, good sponsors, money from crowds a bonus ...... similar to Poland probs ..... You missed one, no promoters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 hour ago, KeirStarmerFan said: Chris Harris and Scott Nicholls never turned their back on British Speedway. The modern era of riders only care about money. Think you'll find all riders rode abroad back in the day - but the main difference being British speedway was comparable money wise to Europe and if not the number of meetings made it worthwhile back then - Now unfortunately British speedway is third or fourth in payment terms so as we know Poland now means increased monies, sponsorship and opportunity, Sweden paying more per point why would you ride in the UK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 hours ago, NSS1 said: take a day off from being a idiot every day if it's possible Chill Geoff - it's no big deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxiboy Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 I think when Dan goes to a Sweden in 2022 he’ll go on a low average but if he didn’t go until 2023 he’ll go on his Polish average which would probably be higher? I’m sure someone will know if that’s the rule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 4 hours ago, NSS1 said: know as much has you !! Wise words mate.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 hours ago, KeirStarmerFan said: How does Swedish Speedway have so much money behind it? Crowds are not better than England. Pre Covid in Sweden crowds were considerably larger than in the UK... Not Poland level obviously but a basic meeting would get 2000 or so... And, given they don't run Mickey Mouse rules, it means they do have some credibility and have a nationally recognised company sponsoring the league.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 hours ago, baxiboy said: I think when Dan goes to a Sweden in 2022 he’ll go on a low average but if he didn’t go until 2023 he’ll go on his Polish average which would probably be higher? I’m sure someone will know if that’s the rule? Explains why Smederna are offering him so much money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 hours ago, mikebv said: Pre Covid in Sweden crowds were considerably larger than in the UK... Not Poland level obviously but a basic meeting would get 2000 or so... And, given they don't run Mickey Mouse rules, it means they do have some credibility and have a nationally recognised company sponsoring the league.... Much easier to race Poland and Sweden with one set of equipment and team of mechanics than it is to do Poland and UK. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 14 hours ago, Bradford Ace said: Bewley signing now announced by Smederna so that’s the end of him at Belle Vue for now. Gutting for all BV fans after watching him progress from the Colts reserve to the Aces No1 in 5 seasons. Presumably paves the way to a Fricke return for 2022 This all boils down to the Polish league only allowing their riders to ride in one other league. It is not that long since riders rode in GB , Sweden and Poland. We now have Dan, Robert and Tai not riding in Britain….. our best three riders!!! Personally totally gutted at losing Dan for 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Are they run by a committee then, a bit like Australia? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 A perfect move for Dan at this stage of his career.. Too many GB lads didnt make that risky jump into a more pressured environment and stagnated, when they could have maybe progressed up the Speedway ladder... The vast majority of races he is in now will have at least one top level rider up at the tapes with him which can only help improve his own performance... Missing the start and passing sometimes all three others in Sweden and Poland wont be as easy as he seems to find it in the UK so his gating will need to be consistently sharp which can only help him at World Individual and Team level... Hopefully he will appear in some individual events over here like the Peter Craven Memorial as he one rider that definitely is "worth the admission" to watch.... A big couple of years for Dan coming up I would think, let's hope it goes well for him as having a couple of successful young lads like Bewley and Lambert at World Class level can only help get the sport in the UK more publicity off the back of it.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 15 hours ago, KeirStarmerFan said: Chris Harris and Scott Nicholls never turned their back on British Speedway. The modern era of riders only care about money. Scotty tried it for half a season and it didn't work for him. I'll disagree with you it's not turning their back on UK speedway it's about being a professional who wants to progress as far as possible in his chosen career. You wouldn't stay with the same company who year after year struggled to keep their head above water if you could enhance your career with a more forward thinking and financially stronger company. It not Bewley, Lambert's or Tai's fault that UK speedway has a trash operation that attracts zero investment from outside. Three very talented and professional riders who deserve to succeed and earn a few quid on the way. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 14 hours ago, Hackett said: Think you'll find all riders rode abroad back in the day - but the main difference being British speedway was comparable money wise to Europe and if not the number of meetings made it worthwhile back then - Now unfortunately British speedway is third or fourth in payment terms so as we know Poland now means increased monies, sponsorship and opportunity, Sweden paying more per point why would you ride in the UK. They may offer more money per point etc in Sweden! - Lets hope the riders all get paid the rate that their contract states. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, mikebv said: A perfect move for Dan at this stage of his career.. Too many GB lads didnt make that risky jump into a more pressured environment and stagnated, when they could have maybe progressed up the Speedway ladder... The vast majority of races he is in now will have at least one top level rider up at the tapes with him which can only help improve his own performance... Missing the start and passing sometimes all three others in Sweden and Poland wont be as easy as he seems to find it in the UK so his gating will need to be consistently sharp which can only help him at World Individual and Team level... Hopefully he will appear in some individual events over here like the Peter Craven Memorial as he one rider that definitely is "worth the admission" to watch.... A big couple of years for Dan coming up I would think, let's hope it goes well for him as having a couple of successful young lads like Bewley and Lambert at World Class level can only help get the sport in the UK more publicity off the back of it.. Agree with what you say but the world cup win certainly went under the radar, nothing in the majority of news/media outlets. I always thought Woffinden could have used his position as world champion more to have promoted the sport over here, hes one rider who has the personality and would have been seen as cool by the younger generations, Doyle has shown far more loyalty to to UK speedway than our own riders and was only really forced out by the unfortunate situation at Swindon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: Scotty tried it for half a season and it didn't work for him. I'll disagree with you it's not turning their back on UK speedway it's about being a professional who wants to progress as far as possible in his chosen career. You wouldn't stay with the same company who year after year struggled to keep their head above water if you could enhance your career with a more forward thinking and financially stronger company. It not Bewley, Lambert's or Tai's fault that UK speedway has a trash operation that attracts zero investment from outside. Three very talented and professional riders who deserve to succeed and earn a few quid on the way. Very true but it never stopped Doyle showing his loyalty to the UK, riding here as world champion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Aren't you all being a bit previous? Or have Poland announced that their 2 team rule will also apply for next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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