Falcon1983 Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 9 hours ago, bellevueace said: And that dosent sit with the BSF agenda, the rule is straight forward, if the move is illegal it will be overturned by the BSPl, people are interpreting it to suit their own argument, where none exists, Poole got it all the time. It's pretty simple but worded wrong After 25% of fixtures it's more of a transfer window that allows for team changes. The team that is changed is the team that starts the competition, until that competition starts teams are allowed to make team changes. So Belle Vue bring in Zagar start the league with Zagar but cant make any transfers until the window opens 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, mikebv said: They still have Mark Lemon as manager... I don't even think he can even make a mess of this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, TTT said: I don't even think he can even make a mess of this one. Oh ye of little faith!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 Great news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 54 minutes ago, tellboy said: I don't think there was any mud slinging,it was just people interpreting the rules differently,which is totally understandable with how the rules are written. Good to see another top rider back in the UK.Just waiting for NKI now please. No way Jose... His 28 days are up.... You need to use Kildemand... Who is injured... So therefore use loads of guests to replace him, (we have got to keep the sport credible)... Rules are Rules... (Or are they Regulations?).... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 4 hours ago, PhilTheAce said: Now announced by bspa drink them tears Remember this one when Belle Vue bottle it again come PO time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 3 hours ago, mikebv said: No way Jose... His 28 days are up.... You need to use Kildemand... Who is injured... So therefore use loads of guests to replace him, (we have got to keep the sport credible)... Rules are Rules... (Or are they Regulations?).... The rule is you can sign an injury replacement rider.So NKI would be allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 5 hours ago, mikebv said: No way Jose... His 28 days are up.... You need to use Kildemand... Who is injured... So therefore use loads of guests to replace him, (we have got to keep the sport credible)... Rules are Rules... (Or are they Regulations?).... "Regulation is the controlling of an activity or process, usually by means of rules." 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 As much as I believe the rules state this shouldn't be allowed, at least this signing provides some challenge to Sheffield. The Premiership was a 1 horse race (if no injuries) but now Belle Vue v Sheffield Premiership final is the best final for all to (hopefully) see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregoryM Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 16 hours ago, mikebv said: No way Jose... His 28 days are up.... You need to use Kildemand... Who is injured... So therefore use loads of guests to replace him, (we have got to keep the sport credible)... Rules are Rules... (Or are they Regulations?).... 10 hours ago, Roger Jacobs said: "Regulation is the controlling of an activity or process, usually by means of rules." Perhaps Roger has not been following the thread? Otherwise, I'm sure he'll have noted the irony of Mike's entire post. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Welcome back Matej, no doubt the lower deck lawyers will soon find another cause. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 hours ago, bellevueace said: Welcome back Matej, no doubt the lower deck lawyers will soon find another cause. Get hold of Petrocelli... One for the teenagers there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 13 hours ago, GregoryM said: Perhaps Roger has not been following the thread? Otherwise, I'm sure he'll have noted the irony of Mike's entire post. I did get the irony. My quote was directly from a dictionary (italics included). Football has Laws, which, in theory, cannot be broken. Speedway has Regs, many of which are vague, and often seem to be stretched in the interests of the BSPL/Sport (delete as inappropriate). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 On 4/29/2022 at 10:31 AM, Daniel Smith said: It doesn't need to mention the league cup. The League Cup precedes the Premiership so changes can't be made until 25% of league fixtures are completed. It's not difficult to understand. Also Jake Allen is a declared rider whose 28 day contract is irrelevant as he WASN'T granted facility status. The rules the same if the League Cup Final happens after 75% of Premiership fixtures, team won't be allowed changes for that fixture either. It really isn't hard to understand at all show us where it states the date that teams 1-7 has to be declared for the coming league season, the league cup has nothing to do with the league. Belle Vue declared their 1-7 before the league starts. So from now until 25% of league fixtures are completed no team with their declared 1-7 can make changes. That's how it reads, if it included the league cup, it would of been included in the wording. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Roger Jacobs said: I did get the irony. My quote was directly from a dictionary (italics included). Football has Laws, which, in theory, cannot be broken. Speedway has Regs, many of which are vague, and often seem to be stretched in the interests of the BSPL/Sport (delete as inappropriate). Maybe it is time to replace the Speedway Regulations with some guidelines or a 'suggestion book' 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 1 minute ago, arnieg said: Maybe it is time to replace the Speedway Regulations with some guidelines or a 'suggestion book' And a free set of crayons with every copy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 4 hours ago, hyderd said: show us where it states the date that teams 1-7 has to be declared for the coming league season, the league cup has nothing to do with the league. Belle Vue declared their 1-7 before the league starts. So from now until 25% of league fixtures are completed no team with their declared 1-7 can make changes. That's how it reads, if it included the league cup, it would of been included in the wording. Mmm interesting interpretation but isn’t the LEAGUE cup for the teams in the league, therefore teams should be declared prior to it starting. It is, after all, part of the season. Bending the rules to the max IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, Call me wolfie said: Mmm interesting interpretation but isn’t the LEAGUE cup for the teams in the league, therefore teams should be declared prior to it starting. It is, after all, part of the season. Bending the rules to the max IMO. Drink them tears 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 26 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: Drink them tears No tears, not that bothered to be honest, just seems like special treatment because you spent so long chasing riders that were never going to work out. The precedent has been set, unless of course they rewrite the rules so it can’t happen again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, hyderd said: show us where it states the date that teams 1-7 has to be declared for the coming league season, the league cup has nothing to do with the league. Belle Vue declared their 1-7 before the league starts. So from now until 25% of league fixtures are completed no team with their declared 1-7 can make changes. That's how it reads, if it included the league cup, it would of been included in the wording. But is it 25% of all fixtures, or 25% of each team's fixtures? The fixture list is so patchy (without including postponements), 25% overall means some teams will have had less matches than others. By the same token, 25% for each team (without including postponements) means different times depending on when they complete their 25% ... Edited May 1, 2022 by Roger Jacobs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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