Speedtiger Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: If that`s the truth and nothing but the truth- why did Bewley sign for Smederna before Belle Vue ? Money money money…so who can blame him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, MARK246 said: Something must of changed, Dan Bewley rode in the French league on the 19th of February. Yes. Definitely seems the case that the Poles have dropped the two league only rule. Godfrey is trying to spin it some other way, because other teams completed their teams early, while Lemon looks like he had inside info from Poland and waited for the rule to be dropped. The teams who completed early seem to have gone bellyaching to Godfrey about being outsmarted. Would be interesting to know which 2 PL teams supported the Aces and which 3 put the block on their legal team declaration. Edited March 2, 2022 by RoundTheBoards 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 minute ago, RoundTheBoards said: Yes. Definitely seems the case that the Poles have dropped the two league only rule. Godfrey is trying to spin it some other way because other teams completed their teams early, while Lemon had inside info from Poland and waited for the rule to be dropped. The teams who completed early seem to have gone bellyaching to Godfrey about being outsmarted. Would be interesting to know which 2 PL teams supported the Aces and which 3 put the block on their legal team declaration. Completely wrong !!!! read the BSPA statement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Completely wrong !!!! read the BSPA statement. I've read Godfrey's statement . I've also read Dan Bewley's comment which caused Godfrey's hasty panic statement. Which one is true? Well, I make that call based on which person I believe has no reason to lie, and which one I believe has a documented history of not being entirely truthful. Bit of Background Reading Edited March 2, 2022 by RoundTheBoards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, RoundTheBoards said: I've read Godfrey's statement . I've also read Dan Bewley's comment which caused Godfrey's hasty panic statement. Which one is true? Well, I make that call based on which person I believe has no reason to lie, and which one I believe has a documented history of not being entirely truthful. Bit of Background Reading Poland have not changed the rule !!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, racers and royals said: Poland have not changed the rule !!!! You're entitled to believe what you want to believe. But keep saying it doesn't make it true. (nor does a silly amount of exclamation marks!) Edited March 2, 2022 by RoundTheBoards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 Just now, RoundTheBoards said: You're entitled to believe what you want to believe. But keep saying it doesn't make it true. So why hasn`t one other rider come out to congratulate the Extraleague authorities in easing the 1 league rule !!!- you are clutching at straws !!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 24 minutes ago, RoundTheBoards said: Yes. Definitely seems the case that the Poles have dropped the two league only rule. Godfrey is trying to spin it some other way, because other teams completed their teams early, while Lemon looks like he had inside info from Poland and waited for the rule to be dropped. The teams who completed early seem to have gone bellyaching to Godfrey about being outsmarted. Would be interesting to know which 2 PL teams supported the Aces and which 3 put the block on their legal team declaration. I give up 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, racers and royals said: So why hasn`t one other rider come out to congratulate the Extraleague authorities in easing the 1 league rule !!!- you are clutching at straws !!!!! And why was Bewley's comment hastily withdrawn. You wouldn't put out a official statement that wasn't true you would keep quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 54 minutes ago, racers and royals said: No it hasn`t the French league is not classified as one of the other leagues- same as german league Has that always been the case that it is only the "major" leagues that count or is that something that changed since the initial introduction of the rule (not necessarily now, but maybe before last season or sometime)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 34 minutes ago, RoundTheBoards said: Yes. Definitely seems the case that the Poles have dropped the two league only rule. Godfrey is trying to spin it some other way, because other teams completed their teams early, while Lemon looks like he had inside info from Poland and waited for the rule to be dropped. The teams who completed early seem to have gone bellyaching to Godfrey about being outsmarted. Would be interesting to know which 2 PL teams supported the Aces and which 3 put the block on their legal team declaration. Thought Vladimir Putin had joined the site for a moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HenryW said: Has that always been the case that it is only the "major" leagues that count or is that something that changed since the initial introduction of the rule (not necessarily now, but maybe before last season or sometime)? Not sure Henry, possibly since the Extraleaue introduced the rule - as WTF posted earlier The PZMs offer was that the UK league would have to be declassified down to the same status as the other minor leagues eg French, Czech and German, where they are not included on the international calendar and would lose all rights over their race day priority. Edited March 2, 2022 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Not sure Henry, possibly since the Extraleaue introduced the rule - as WTF posted earlier The PZMs offer was that the UK league would have to be declassified down to the same status as the other minor leagues eg French, Czech and German, where they are not included on the international calendar and would lose all rights over their race day priority. I'm pretty sure that 12 months ago Adam Ellis confirmed French league did not count in his quota of 'international leagues'. Can't ever recall seeing Ligue Francais matches appear on the ISL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, arnieg said: I'm pretty sure that 12 months ago Adam Ellis confirmed French league did not count in his quota of 'international leagues'. Can't ever recall seeing Ligue Francais matches appear on the ISL. The ISLB members certainly used to be UK, Poland, Sweden and Denmark only. It worked reasonable well when Alex Harkess was both it’s chairman and the BSPA chairman as he got Sweden and Denmark to stand with UK in opposing the Poles. When Buster took over, it is alleged he didn’t attend the meetings so UK lost its say. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 hours ago, wtf said: exactly All about the dosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 The rule hadn't changed but it was willing to be changed but only for the right to have priority over all riders on every day of the week. Belle Vue thought we will risk it. Others said no chance. I'm glad it didn't go that way because R/R would have had a field day 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Skidder1 said: So what now for the Aces final 2 riders. It was to be Bewley and Thomson. Will Thomson still be in the mix or will it all be down to availability and averages? 1 familiar face and an exciting edition to the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 You need to get a move on at Belle Vue it's march already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 hours ago, racers and royals said: Not sure Henry, possibly since the Extraleaue introduced the rule - as WTF posted earlier The PZMs offer was that the UK league would have to be declassified down to the same status as the other minor leagues eg French, Czech and German, where they are not included on the international calendar and would lose all rights over their race day priority. "Declassified down to the same status as the other minor leagues"..... Kapow! Smack! Blam! Freudian slip? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 It would have been utter madness if GB had given up its status in the international pecking order. But it also seems like the FIM is powerless when it comes to bringing about any change to the PZM's restrictive contracts. It's been obvious all along that a combined approach by GB+Denmark+Sweden is needed to negotiate change. However, I'm also wondering if Discovery will play a crucial role and bring it's weight to the situation, as surely their interests are to avoid Poland's dominance going too far? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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