Daniel Smith Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 Think we have to think honestly about Belle Vue & British Speedway in general, I think they'll be in serious trouble come the end of the season. With the pandemic & now the 'Cost of Living' challenges for the next 5yrs minimum things are gonna be really really tough for the sport 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Think we have to think honestly about Belle Vue & British Speedway in general, I think they'll be in serious trouble come the end of the season. With the pandemic & now the 'Cost of Living' challenges for the next 5yrs minimum things are gonna be really really tough for the sport Which confuses me even more how so many do things in splendid isolation.. We all know credibility of the leagues is a huge issue when it comes to engaging people to follow it at an emotional loyalty level, yet nothing is done to sort this collectively... We also know that very few sports run where the clubs (and competitors), pick and choose by themselves what league they compete in, based on nothing more than their own needs and wants.... However, anyone coming in to the sport who suggests that such a fundamental barrier to the sports' growth needs to be knocked down, seem to get short shrift... Usually, it seems, by those who cannot see further than their own small fiefdom.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 They will be saving a few Bob, Adrian would have been on a fair salary, Mark will get a wage rise probably do away with the director of speedway role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 Where does it say that Smith is going to be 'lost to the sport'? The announcement is just about him stepping down from his BV CEO role! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Think we have to think honestly about Belle Vue & British Speedway in general, I think they'll be in serious trouble come the end of the season. With the pandemic & now the 'Cost of Living' challenges for the next 5yrs minimum things are gonna be really really tough for the sport Speedway fans aka homeowner pensioners are sheltered from the cost of living. Their homes rise by several percent each year. They also receive state pensions that rise by inflation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 43 minutes ago, KeirStarmerFan said: Speedway fans aka homeowner pensioners are sheltered from the cost of living. Their homes rise by several percent each year. They also receive state pensions that rise by inflation. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, KeirStarmerFan said: Speedway fans aka homeowner pensioners are sheltered from the cost of living. Their homes rise by several percent each year. They also receive state pensions that rise by inflation. And I will be joining them in September as I hit 55.... You just make sure you keep working hard to ensure the economy prospers and my pension remains a good one.... And keep paying those taxes too, so when I need the NHS in my frail dotage, they can spend thousands on me..... I may even buy a season ticket the year after for the Aces... So no slacking...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 NOT a surprise really, the big surprise it took so long. BV has been badly managed by these to clowns. Smith knew nothing about speedway and judging by the losses at bv next to nothing about business. Lemon who’s clueless about business and by bv results and team management knows very little about running a speedway team. At the bottom line you have to look at the owners off bv for making very poor appointments in a sport and business the know nothing about. Clearly they thought they could make a quick profit and how wrong have they been. Lemon in charge is yet another serious desperate blunder. Where this will take bv is anybody guess but the future looks very uncertain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Where does it say that Smith is going to be 'lost to the sport'? The announcement is just about him stepping down from his BV CEO role! I think the goal posts have moved on that one and there’s nowhere now for him to go within speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, KeirStarmerFan said: Speedway fans aka homeowner pensioners are sheltered from the cost of living. Their homes rise by several percent each year. They also receive state pensions that rise by inflation. Current UK inflation rate is 5.4% and forecast to rise further Pensions will rise by 3.1% in April so how is that rising by inflation ?. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 12 hours ago, Speedtiger said: NOT a surprise really, the big surprise it took so long. BV has been badly managed by these to clowns. Smith knew nothing about speedway and judging by the losses at bv next to nothing about business. Lemon who’s clueless about business and by bv results and team management knows very little about running a speedway team. At the bottom line you have to look at the owners off bv for making very poor appointments in a sport and business the know nothing about. Clearly they thought they could make a quick profit and how wrong have they been. Lemon in charge is yet another serious desperate blunder. Where this will take bv is anybody guess but the future looks very uncertain. He wasn’t there to run the ‘ speedway ‘, he was there to run the business side of the club, which he did extremely well, Lemo is the speedway side. Considering the obstacles in their way and the fact they are still running, they appear to have done ok so far and as some one who has had dealings with Adrian, he is a top class businessman . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 13 hours ago, heathen52 said: Current UK inflation rate is 5.4% and forecast to rise further Pensions will rise by 3.1% in April so how is that rising by inflation ?. That is roughly 3.1% more than my wages have gone up in the past 5 years!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Fortythirtyeight said: He wasn’t there to run the ‘ speedway ‘, he was there to run the business side of the club, which he did extremely well, Lemo is the speedway side. Considering the obstacles in their way and the fact they are still running, they appear to have done ok so far and as some one who has had dealings with Adrian, he is a top class businessman . I also had ‘dealings’ with Smith and found him to be arrogant and frankly clueless! How you can say he’s a top class businessman with club losses and debts running at many many hundreds of thousands of pounds and the club going backwards over the past 5 years. Sadly for BV Lemon is not fit to run the club as he has proved with his poor team management. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, Speedtiger said: I also had ‘dealings’ with Smith and found him to be arrogant and frankly clueless! How you can say he’s a top class businessman with club losses and debts running at many many hundreds of thousands of pounds and the club going backwards over the past 5 years. Sadly for BV Lemon is not fit to run the club as he has proved with his poor team management. Your opinion, not mine. As for the club going backwards for the last 5 years, where was it before then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, Speedtiger said: I also had ‘dealings’ with Smith and found him to be arrogant and frankly clueless! How you can say he’s a top class businessman with club losses and debts running at many many hundreds of thousands of pounds and the club going backwards over the past 5 years. Sadly for BV Lemon is not fit to run the club as he has proved with his poor team management. Worst post I've ever read on here, total nonsense. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: Your opinion, not mine. As for the club going backwards for the last 5 years, where was it before then ? We have the best track and stadium in the UK and what has improved at the club over the past 5 years is very little. Crowds have not increased, no significant sponsors on board. Catering at the stadium is a joke. BV have given up running the stadium now, we are back to square one and deep in debt…and now we have a third rate speedway rider in charge…what could possibly go wrong..!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Just now, Speedtiger said: We have the best track and stadium in the UK and what has improved at the club over the past 5 years is very little. Crowds have not increased, no significant sponsors on board. Catering at the stadium is a joke. BV have given up running the stadium now, we are back to square one and deep in debt…and now we have a third rate speedway rider in charge…what could possibly go wrong..!!! You appear to have absolutely no idea what your talking about. Perhaps you should learn about the stadium set up and who runs what before you make uneducated , sweeping statements . 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 27 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: You appear to have absolutely no idea what your talking about. Perhaps you should learn about the stadium set up and who runs what before you make uneducated , sweeping statements . Well ok so go on explain away the set up and where I’m wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 BV could do with that tie up with the MEN again ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Fortythirtyeight said: Your opinion, not mine. As for the club going backwards for the last 5 years, where was it before then ? The whole sport has gone not only backwards over the past 5 years but actually into free fall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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