Gazc Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 minute ago, crescent girl said: She isn't, but you still don't want to mess with her! Or with Leon's mum, come to think of it..... I was joking off course that’s why I put a smiley on the original post. I know who she is and very passionate about her club so calm down dear it was tongue in cheek. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits4eva Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, GS550 said: The question arises, how different would it have been if the match had been ridden on an actual speedway track rather than a postage stamp 'Mickey Mouse' track. And should there be a minimum size of track to be permitted to stage official speedway meetings. 'Racing' at Armadale never seems to look like 'speedway' as most people know it, the riders seem to stall and almost come to a complete halt on the bends. That an experienced Polish rider couldn't even turn the bike on it probably says more about the deficiencies of the track than it does the rider. Other 'what ifs' such as if Ostergaard had been fit, although unlikely to have done better than Brennan, and Sedgmen would probably have done better than Nowak at Armadale although probably less well at Ashfield so again probably cancels out. crikey… I can’t believe I will type this… but… I used to believe the “trick track” myth of Armadale… my team now seem to have dialled into how Armadale works and our curse as one of the worst teams at Armadale does seem to be lifting. The fact that a few teams have won at Edinburgh or ran them very close should also back up the fact it’s not so much a trick track any more… more that it’s just a technical track! Nowak will not have seen anything like that in Poland as they’re all on the biggest, faster side! It’s being able to get round a track like Armadale that will make you a better all round rider! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spt82 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 30 minutes ago, GS550 said: The question arises, how different would it have been if the match had been ridden on an actual speedway track rather than a postage stamp 'Mickey Mouse' track. And should there be a minimum size of track to be permitted to stage official speedway meetings. 'Racing' at Armadale never seems to look like 'speedway' as most people know it, the riders seem to stall and almost come to a complete halt on the bends. That an experienced Polish rider couldn't even turn the bike on it probably says more about the deficiencies of the track than it does the rider. Other 'what ifs' such as if Ostergaard had been fit, although unlikely to have done better than Brennan, and Sedgmen would probably have done better than Nowak at Armadale although probably less well at Ashfield so again probably cancels out. Wow your not bitter at all! It was Brennans first ever visit and he got on just fine. Nowak just a typical pole that can ride very well flat out but lacks the throttle control that is required for a track like Armadale. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 40 minutes ago, Bandits4eva said: crikey… I can’t believe I will type this… but… I used to believe the “trick track” myth of Armadale… my team now seem to have dialled into how Armadale works and our curse as one of the worst teams at Armadale does seem to be lifting. The fact that a few teams have won at Edinburgh or ran them very close should also back up the fact it’s not so much a trick track any more… more that it’s just a technical track! Nowak will not have seen anything like that in Poland as they’re all on the biggest, faster side! It’s being able to get round a track like Armadale that will make you a better all round rider! Technical not trick. Glasgow have won there the last few years . We had to build the track to suit size of stadium . If rained off tonight Tigers will regroup and surely be favourites to proceed. Can’t see Wells doing so poorly again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, topaz325 said: No sarcasm at all , I did point out if finances allow Well saidl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS550 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, spt82 said: Wow your not bitter at all! It was Brennans first ever visit and he got on just fine. Nowak just a typical pole that can ride very well flat out but lacks the throttle control that is required for a track like Armadale. Wow you don't read posts at all!! In answer to your "wrong end of the stick'" false assumption, not at all in fact. If you read my original post again or actually read what it says for the first time by the sound of it then you would see that it's an open question. And my point about Brennan was a fair/balanced assessment that his contribution probably would not have been bettered by Ostergaard, and again that Sedgmen and Nowak's contributions probably cancelled each other out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, King Jamie said: A dominant display from the Monarchs gives Rory Schlein another appearance at sunny Armadale prior to his retirement A couple of early crashes left me even more unsure as to whether we could pull the deficit back. However, when Anders Rowed into the stadium and stuck his oar in to deliver an excellent heat 6 victory, I settled down a bit. Mixed fortunes for our young German superstar. Unceremoniously dumped on the shale in heat 1 before 2 wins, 2 third places and 2 ducks. More than acceptable for a reserve. Hats off also to young Edwards. A vital heat 12 win, with the 5-1 completed by the glue that is Kye Thomson The Weegies didn't have the best of nights. Certainly Mr Karlsson was looking a tad uppity at one point, invading the track with the riders already at tapes. Not entirely sure what that was about. Young Brennan put yet another nail in the trick track myth. Outwith the predictable heat 15 cheating, I was very impressed with his evening's work. Talking of heat 15, why did Cook stop racing? Poor refereeing putting the red lights on before Worrall crossed the line at the end of lap 2. Could have and should have been awarded instead of us having to win the tie twice. On to tonight and, I must admit, I'm not overly fussed either way. As I've stated previously on here, we don't deserve to be in the play offs and really shouldn't have any chance of being Champions this season. Don’t get me wrong, it's good to beat Glasgow in any competition, but it won't ruin my winter if we don't emerge victorious. Who is Mr Karlsson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spt82 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, GS550 said: Wow you don't read posts at all!! In answer to your "wrong end of the stick'" false assumption, not at all in fact. If you read my original post again or actually read what it says for the first time by the sound of it then you would see that it's an open question. And my point about Brennan was a fair/balanced assessment that his contribution probably would not have been bettered by Ostergaard, and again that Sedgmen and Nowak's contributions probably cancelled each other out. I've never seen more 'what ifs' before than were in your original post. To ask the question what if the match had been ridden on an actual speedway track is an absolutely ridiculous comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Endeavour said: Who is Mr Karlsson? Michael Max 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, GS550 said: The question arises, how different would it have been if the match had been ridden on an actual speedway track rather than a postage stamp 'Mickey Mouse' track. And should there be a minimum size of track to be permitted to stage official speedway meetings. 'Racing' at Armadale never seems to look like 'speedway' as most people know it, the riders seem to stall and almost come to a complete halt on the bends. That an experienced Polish rider couldn't even turn the bike on it probably says more about the deficiencies of the track than it does the rider. Other 'what ifs' such as if Ostergaard had been fit, although unlikely to have done better than Brennan, and Sedgmen would probably have done better than Nowak at Armadale although probably less well at Ashfield so again probably cancels out. But you knew how to ride the trick track in the league, when you won perhaps they should have just used the result from the league match, then there would have been no need to run this match at all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Bandits4eva said: Sarcasm pal.. And anyways… I think Berwick have done damn well for being one of the less well off clubs and we do have a promotion that are trying to move with the times! If we and other teams had the same finances that Glasgow have got then I’m quite sure we’d all manage to match what they have put out! We have nice dressing rooms Sarah lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS550 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, spt82 said: I've never seen more 'what ifs' before than were in your original post. To ask the question what if the match had been ridden on an actual speedway track is an absolutely ridiculous comment. Not ridiculous at all. An open question. Its a discussion forum. It's got you talking. The 'what ifs' were also balanced out e.g. I mentioned that Brennan cancelled out Ostergaard, and Nowak cancelled out Sedgmen. Again, it's a discussion forum. If you don't like discussion then maybe don't use a discussion forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 minute ago, GS550 said: Not ridiculous at all. An open question. Its a discussion forum. It's got you talking. The 'what ifs' were also balanced out e.g. I mentioned that Brennan cancelled out Ostergaard, and Nowak cancelled out Sedgmen. Again, it's a discussion forum. If you don't like discussion then maybe don't use a discussion forum. Sour grapes to me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS550 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Third Man said: But you knew how to ride the trick track in the league, when you won perhaps they should have just used the result from the league match, then there would have been no need to run this match at all Who is "you"?? I only asked an open question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS550 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Robinh88 said: Sour grapes to me Looks like you're bodyswerving the question to me. Nothing to do with grapes, apples, or any other fruit or food product. Only asked an open question. Maybe there should be a ban on postage stamp tracks, not for one particular team but for the sake of the sport generally. Maybe not, its an open question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeyin Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 Ok, Glasgow had an awful meeting, it happens, Monarchs were up for it and deserved to go through to the final, Edinburgh is not a trick track but is a technical one , and often riders see it for the first time and it gets in their heads, took Josh G a few years to get round it, as for Tom , he has been brought up riding another technical track at Eastbourne, so adapted easily and for some of the comments on here that Tom was cheating in heat 15 by falling off because we were losing on a 5-1, give your heads a wobble as Tom gives 100% and is still young , he made a mistake, no way would he risk an injury by deliberately falling off when he has some big meetings coming up. Edinburgh have 3 solid heat leaders and a very impressive second string in Kye Thomson, Glasgow have 1 heatleader since Ulrich was injured and have done well to finish 2nd in the league, I reckon the Monarchs are peaking at the right time and will go all the way , and good luck to them. Please stop with the money men can't buy a league title crap, us fans have been through extremely difficult times over the years and are happy to be secure that we have a team each year to follow. I Don't mind a bit of banter but some of it is below the belt, football type stuff, such as the unwashed weegies, not funny. Rant over 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 If we are to stand a chance tonight it starts from the gate. The most important part of a race at Armadale is between there and exiting bend 2/back straight. Come out ahead of them and you force them to make passes which few will other than Masters and Pickering. The other is watching each heat, seeing the track change and reading the racing. When the Monarchs are hammering round the outside at speed in the later heats yet Wells and Nicol persist at a snails pace on the dead inside line, wtf! Time to stand up, all of them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Barrow Boy 2 said: It states on Speedway Updates that Edinburgh have now qualified to play Poole in the final and have even suggested the dates. They have.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Endeavour said: Job done - they have to set dates. But Poole haven't beat Leicester yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, GS550 said: Looks like you're bodyswerving the question to me. Nothing to do with grapes, apples, or any other fruit or food product. Only asked an open question. Maybe there should be a ban on postage stamp tracks, not for one particular team but for the sake of the sport generally. Maybe not, its an open question. What a load of nonsense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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