arnieg Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, iainb said: Fan demand? Really? Unlikely, have the powers that be ever done anything due to fan demand? Yes many of the minor rule changes have been the result of promoters responding to the perception that people don't like some rule or want another one changed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian68 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 Fair play to the lads who have taken the guest bookings i hope you earn a few quid unfortunately I can only see a good hammering all the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, arnieg said: Yes many of the minor rule changes have been the result of promoters responding to the perception that people don't like some rule or want another one changed. Tactical's were initially invented to make matches closer, I can remember when their was no limit to tac subs providing a team was 6 behind, over the years the rule has been played with and now we have just one which is frankly ridiculous but the cost of them clearly pays a part. You either should allow teams to play tactical’s as and when teams are 6/8 behind or scrap them altogether, frankly I don’t see the need for them anymore they undoubtedly don’t stop bigger scoreline’s and favour the teams with big hitters rather than the more solid teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 I'm glad they've been scrapped for two legged ko ties, would be grossly unfair for a top heavy team to win a tie by using tac subs in both legs (remember P'boro winning the EL in 2006?). I'd get rid of them altogether. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scunny1 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) Think we should have a new rule. Lets be able to play a TACTICAL ILLNESS, when riders can't be bothered, crap at certain tracks, or just feeble excuses. Edited October 9, 2021 by scunny1 spelling mistake 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, scunny1 said: Think we should have a new rule. Lets be able to play a TACTICAL ILLNESS, when riders can't be bothered, crap at certain tracks, or just feeble excuses. I think you will find we have had that for years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian68 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, scunny1 said: Think we should have a new rule. Lets be able to play a TACTICAL ILLNESS, when riders can't be bothered, crap at certain tracks, or just feeble excuses. Yeah its ironic scunny were willing to run this 2nd leg at an earlier date without a replacement for Ellis and now he's ill mmm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimmy Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 10 hours ago, iainb said: Would you have Auty back? Only if he was ill every other week for the away meetings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 hour ago, arnieg said: It is basically due to fan demand after a number of ties (notably the 2006 play-off final) were won by a team using tacticals in BOTH legs. So what,that is the idea of the tac sub rule in the first place,to give a team at least a chance of keeping it close....as far as I'm concerned,if a team falls six or more points down at any stage of the meeting the use of a tac sub should be made available so that the meeting would at least be much closer,except of course for the supporters who want to see their team thrash everyone week in week out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 15 hours ago, iainb said: Bit of a joke isn't it, no wonder the Leicester promotion have kept quiet about it... how on earth do you "promote" this fixture? You are making assumptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, Skodaman said: You are making assumptions. Care to say what "assumptions" you think I am making? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 2 hours ago, ScunnyDan said: Anddddd the award to the most pointless fixture of the season goes to.... this one! Impossible task for the Scorpions already, I'm half surprised we haven't forefitted tbh... Good luck Scunny boiiz The fine for forfeiting would be substantially higher than the wage cost. Is there maybe disagreement between the Chairman and the Vice-Chairman when one is clearly taking the proverbial out of the other with team line ups, home and away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: The fine for forfeiting would be substantially higher than the wage cost. Is there maybe disagreement between the Chairman and the Vice-Chairman when one is clearly taking the proverbial out of the other with team line ups, home and away? Don't think it's that difficult to see what's happening with this fixture. If there is as many have reported a frosty relationship between Bates and Godfrey. Adam Ellis is listed as riding tomorrow in the French League and will be Scunthorpe's most expensive rider to pay. His season is done in the UK, off you go home have a good weekend. Approximate cost saving by paying RR for a few points compared to Adam £750. Bring in some guests and hope for an absolute thumping. Why? Because Godfrey will be paying his teams points money with no gate receipts, and if Leicester score 60+ it'll cost the Bates family a lot more money from a smaller gate receipt, because it's a dead rubber and poor opposition The only bit I guess that surprises me is why so many Scunthorpe fans can't see through Godfrey and constantly blame everyone else when he is the common factor in all this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 15 hours ago, Jaizer said: 3 guests and r/r. Wow Just another night at the Speedway.... (In the UK)... Roll up! Roll up! Form an orderly queue please... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) If Ellis is missing due to illness hope his suspension carries over to next season when it starts Edited October 9, 2021 by scoobydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 Maybe Jonny the Spud may like to comment?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, wtf said: Don't think it's that difficult to see what's happening with this fixture. If there is as many have reported a frosty relationship between Bates and Godfrey. Adam Ellis is listed as riding tomorrow in the French League and will be Scunthorpe's most expensive rider to pay. His season is done in the UK, off you go home have a good weekend. Approximate cost saving by paying RR for a few points compared to Adam £750. Bring in some guests and hope for an absolute thumping. Why? Because Godfrey will be paying his teams points money with no gate receipts, and if Leicester score 60+ it'll cost the Bates family a lot more money from a smaller gate receipt, because it's a dead rubber and poor opposition The only bit I guess that surprises me is why so many Scunthorpe fans can't see through Godfrey and constantly blame everyone else when he is the common factor in all this. If that is his plan... And I say 'if'... Then the rules allow him to do it (rules agreed by all), therefore there is nothing wrong.... I am amazed fans still pay money to this lot who run it, but whilst they do, they deserve everything they get, as, due to their very presence, they condone and endorse what goes on... And also by condoning and endorsing how the sport is ran (in the UK) also pretty much take away their right to complain.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 15 hours ago, iainb said: "Illness" according to the Leicester website... there's been a bit of that about this year It will be Covid 20 used next year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian68 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 18 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: If Ellis is missing due to illness hope his suspention carries over to next season when it starts So do I and I hope he's riding for someone else 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 14 hours ago, scunny1 said: I am embarrassed to see my team looking so weak. Injury to TJ aside, Ellis ,Arnio and Pjiper have let us down. Not that bothered if we have seen the back of all three to be honest. How has Pijper let you down? He's only missing because he's been banned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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