Fromafar Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: Wasn't Hans Andersen missing as we was signed mid season with other booked/prior meetings? Was Kennedy signed but then had to sign someone else as he would not be there in time? How long was it before it was said D Thompson missing with "mystery" illness? Was it not Poole that signed TWO riders who were not available but used the rules to their advantage with guests? Who said Ellis was ill? Adam? No His Dad? No The Scorpion website? No http://scunthorpe-speedway.com/?p=13714 Rob Godfrey? No Gail Godfrey(co-promoter)? No Scunthorpe Scorpion's Press Officer? No Leicester's website preview? No http://www.leicesterspeedway.com/news.php?extend.31835.1 So only on the BSP Ltd website & here on the forum are posters saying "supposed" illness. So who is to blame for the mis information? Possibly "keyboard warriors" who hate almost every thing of Scunthorpe/Godfrey notification. Since you know everything ,with no facility granted who actually replaced him,I though it had to be a junior but obviously that is not correct.? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fromafar said: So who was replacing Ellis,thought it would have to be a junior. A rule brought in a year or two ago....... 'no facility’ regulation whereby a club can only use a guest with an average at least 25% lower than a rider' 2 hours ago, Jaizer said: Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't the referee make Scunthorpe change their guests around and r/r moved to 5 for Ellis? That's what it shows on updates website anyway so that particular excuse also sounds like BS Or they originally declared R/R for Ellis at 1 then referee made them change it? So that all sounds like an excuse made up after the event to me Did the referee make scunthorpe change their line up or was there a mix up in the Leicester programme? The scunny preview shows the line up was correct. 1. Jye Etheridge (guest), 2. Simon Lambert (captain), 3. Jordan Palin, 4. James Shanes (guest), 5. Rider replacement for Thomas Jorgensen, 6. Josh MacDonald, 7. Connor Mountain (guest). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, eric i said: A rule brought in a year or two ago....... 'no facility’ regulation whereby a club can only use a guest with an average at least 25% lower than a rider' Did the referee make scunthorpe change their line up or was there a mix up in the Leicester programme? The scunny preview shows the line up was correct. 1. Jye Etheridge (guest), 2. Simon Lambert (captain), 3. Jordan Palin, 4. James Shanes (guest), 5. Rider replacement for Thomas Jorgensen, 6. Josh MacDonald, 7. Connor Mountain (guest). Thanks ,but it’s a typical stupid Speedway rule that a “ No facility “ means a “ guest “.Only in Speedway,no wonder fans are deserting this sport.Some riders don’t give sh#t about the sport in GB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 39 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: Why?? They will be riding for their respective Championship clubs! Have you seen the teams for the Kent vs Cubs match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 6 hours ago, Jonny the spud said: You really are as thick as a brick and clearly haven’t read the last few pages have you ? Yeah really thick , its held me back massively in life. Another case of daddy ellis not being able to take some stick about his son , would you like a tissue? A Brit missing a British play off meeting to ride in France is a piss take like it or not and is the reason fans continue to stop going. Since when has riding in France been a priority? seems your boy hasnt gained many new fans at Scunny with him missing vital matches, riding borrowed machinery etc … as said the worst British champ I can remember in my 20 plus years of following the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 ATTIS INSURANCE Scunthorpe Scorpions will return to Leicester’s Paul Chapman & Sons Arena in Beaumont Park to finish their season in the second leg of their Championship Play-Off quarter-final tie tomorrow night (Tuesday) at 7.30pm. The meeting has been re-scheduled from Saturday, where it eventually was called off at around 8pm, after the ambulance had broken down en route. Just to clarify one detail from Saturday – the absence of British Champion Adam Ellis. Adam was en route to a fixture on the continent on Sunday and therefore unable to ride for Scorpions. After Leicester won the first leg at the Eddie Wright Raceway by 18 points, the Scunthorpe management were realistic to realise it meant the end of the club’s hopes to progress further in the play-offs. Therefore, the club accepted every date offered to them by Lions after the second leg at was originally rained off on Saturday, October 2, no matter the availability of the Scunthorpe riders, since the most important factor was co-operation to allow the completion of the tie so that the rest of the play-offs could progress. An initial proposed date was Sunday, October 3 and Scorpions were prepared to ride on that date, even though Adam Ellis would have been riding in the Czech Golden Helmet that day and no facility would have been available in this instance. The club already were considering James Shanes as a possible guest. In accordance with regulation 012.4E of the rulebook, when a club have ‘no facility’, they can use a guest rider with an average of 25% lower than the absent rider. Both Poole and Glasgow have already utilised this rule earlier in the season against Scorpions, to replace Benjamin Basso and Marcin Nowak respectively before they had ridden for the clubs. But Lions could not get medical cover for October 3, and instead decided on Saturday, October 9 as the new date, which again caused an issue, since Adam riding in France on the Sunday and was unable to ride on the Saturday, since he had already booked his travel. But, again, Scorpions accepted the date, and Jye Etheridge was lined up to ride for Adam as a ‘no facility’ guest. The club have received queries from some supporters as to the situation and hope this clarifies matters. When Adam signed for Scorpions already into the season, he already had some commitments in his diary. He has always appeared for Scorpions when it has not clashed with his existing commitments and he has never let Scunthorpe Speedway down. Adam is now able to ride tomorrow, but Scorpions are still missing the trio of Thomas Jorgensen (injured), Tero Aarnio (visa issues) and Theo Pijper (30-day suspension). James Shanes and Connor Mountain are the guest riders, while Scorpions will also use rider replacement. Scunthorpe promoter Rob Godfrey said: “Due to Saturday’s unfortunate call off, we now have Adam Ellis back in this meeting. We’re realistic enough to realise that we’re not going to go through on aggregate, but hopefully it now means we can finish the season with a battling performance against Leicester, and who knows – we might even be able to get our first win in six attempts against Lions in 2021.” Expected teams for tomorrow (Tuesday): Leicester Lions: 1. Nick Morris, 2. Dan Thompson, 3. Ryan Douglas, 4. Kyle Howarth, 5. Hans Andersen, 6. Joe Thompson, 7. Zaine Kennedy. Attis Insurance Scunthorpe Scorpions: 1. Adam Ellis, 2. Simon Lambert (captain), 3. Jordan Palin, 4. James Shanes (guest), 5. Rider replacement for Thomas Jorgensen, 6. Josh MacDonald, 7. Connor Mountain (guest). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 Hmm... all been hushed up and swept under the carpet, even the Leicester website has been changed, so they're also in collusion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 Whats the diffrence between "no facility" and a guest rider?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, geoff100 said: Whats the diffrence between "no facility" and a guest rider?? 25% by the looks of it,what a joke!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, iainb said: Hmm... all been hushed up and swept under the carpet, even the Leicester website has been changed, so they're also in collusion! What exactly has been hushed up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 It's a shame that the amount of people on here who always have a negative view of everything. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, geoff100 said: Whats the diffrence between "no facility" and a guest rider?? Some promoters and fans (including members of this forum) complained that no facility (which meant an NL rider effectively with a 3 pt average) unfairly penalised their teams so the 'non-guest guest' rule was slipped into the rulebook a couple of years ago (with I think little fanfare) On the matter of Adam Ellis' "illness" I think that unless someone can demonstrate with a degree of certainty that Rob Godfrey claimed he was ill then I think it is time to move on. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, eric i said: What exactly has been hushed up? Nothing IMO,but think maybe explanation should have been given in more detail in the Ist place.Would have helped IMO,Promoters show very little respect to the fans on these occasions.IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 At least there's a semi decent line up tomorrow night, at Leicester anyway, not sure what Kent fans think about it all. You've got to ask why we're running a championship quarter final on a cold mid October Tuesday evening to get it finished so Poole can ride on Wednesday with the return running against the SoN on Saturday though... especially with the stadium being silent so often during the summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 All those different rules and regulations required to be used, reviewed, re reviewed and finally agreed upon, just to put on 15 heats of Speedway between two teams... Quite Amazing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 Was it good old "ian thomas" when asked how to improve speedway said " through the rule book away" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, geoff100 said: Was it good old "ian thomas" when asked how to improve speedway said " through the rule book away" From a man who carried a Copy in his back pocket,”just in case” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, iainb said: At least there's a semi decent line up tomorrow night, at Leicester anyway, not sure what Kent fans think about it all. You've got to ask why we're running a championship quarter final on a cold mid October Tuesday evening to get it finished so Poole can ride on Wednesday with the return running against the SoN on Saturday though... especially with the stadium being silent so often during the summer Cold?.. I've been colder in March or April Fingers crossed this mild weather continues and the lions get an acceptable crowd for whats sadly a bit of a dead rubber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 Hans withdrawn at BV tonight with head injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Hans withdrawn at BV tonight with head injury. Is it seven days rest for concussion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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