SteveLyric2 Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 minute ago, mc131 said: Not much of a ban really Well at least it stops him racing from November through February - oh hang on..........!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) BB ban suggests its lower end of the scale. Probably prescription drugs. Serious and foolish but not something involving illegal banned drug use otherwise it would have been 2 years minimum. There others who've done far worse and come back and others accused of far worse who rode on. Up to Plymouth and Ipswich now whether they want to hire him for 2023. Not clear if the RR facility remains. Edited September 8, 2022 by HGould Spell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom89 Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, HGould said: BB ban suggests its lower end of the scale. Probably prescription drugs. Serious and foolish but not something involving illegal banned drug use otherwise it would have been 2 years minimum. There others who've done far worse and come back and others accused of far worse who rode on. Up to Plymouth and Ipswich now whether they want to hire him for 2023. Not clear if the RR facility remains. I think with the huge rider shortage we have in this country 100% someone will sign him next season. No doubting when he's on form he is very entertaining but he does seem to come with a lot of baggage and trouble seems to follow wherever he goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 minute ago, bloom89 said: I think with the huge rider shortage we have in this country 100% someone will sign him next season. No doubting when he's on form he is very entertaining but he does seem to come with a lot of baggage and trouble seems to follow wherever he goes. There's certainly 1 club who won't be offering him a ride as we don't have a team to support anymore at Newcastle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 33 minutes ago, HGould said: BB ban suggests its lower end of the scale. Probably prescription drugs. Serious and foolish but not something involving illegal banned drug use otherwise it would have been 2 years minimum. There others who've done far worse and come back and others accused of far worse who rode on. Up to Plymouth and Ipswich now whether they want to hire him for 2023. Not clear if the RR facility remains. with shortage of riders in this country im sure ben will be a sort after rider next march Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, ray c said: with shortage of riders in this country im sure ben will be a sort after rider next march No doubt Plymouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 49 minutes ago, ray c said: with shortage of riders in this country im sure ben will be a sort after rider next march Why will there be a shortage of riders with Poland reducing their block on riders and possibly a couple of tracks less? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: Why will there be a shortage of riders with Poland reducing their block on riders and possibly a couple of tracks less? There is currently an acute shortage of riders in the U.K. for every rider in the U.K. that doubles-up that's one rider short. I can easily see 6 double-up riders retiring @ the end of this season that's 12 team places alone! Any rider currently riding in Poland but not the U.K. will require big bucks to do so in 2023 so I don't see that as the solution. We must encourage U.K. talent to take up the sport & welcome our commonwealth cousins. The double-up situation should only be used as the last resort, riders may love it but for all other reasons it's a disaster for our once great sport. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmarsbar2 Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 22 hours ago, HGould said: BB ban suggests its lower end of the scale. Probably prescription drugs. Serious and foolish but not something involving illegal banned drug use otherwise it would have been 2 years minimum. Fact he was using a banned drug. Even it was prescription pain meds he was putting others at risk competing when he shouldn't have been. Seems to have got off lightly, what deterrent is this to other riders? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, gmarsbar2 said: Fact he was using a banned drug. Even it was prescription pain meds he was putting others at risk competing when he shouldn't have been. Seems to have got off lightly, what deterrent is this to other riders? Without the SCB revealing exactly what caused the test to be failed it is pure speculation if he was putting others at risk. Remember the case of British skier Alain Baxter, who lost his Bronze medal and received a three month ban for testing positive, after using a Vicks nasal inhaler. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/winter-sports/35292538 Edited September 9, 2022 by Sir Sidney 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 some painkillers make the body produce morphine, at a guess i'd suggest something like that 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebaker Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 Scunthorpe should of been given Plymouths Play Off place. At least their Promotion sought replacements for injured riders, Kinsley, Palin and.Kennedy. Gladiators Promotion made no attempt to find a replacement for Kennett. Or a couple of changes to use up the available points. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 Scunthorpe should have been given eff all tbh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, mikebaker said: Scunthorpe should of been given Plymouths Play Off place. At least their Promotion sought replacements for injured riders, Kinsley, Palin and.Kennedy. Gladiators Promotion made no attempt to find a replacement for Kennett. Or a couple of changes to use up the available points. Suspect you may need your dentist on speed dial if you repeated that in front of Gary May or Mark Phillips. They've repeatedly said they've tried numerous options. Some had Swedish commitments, some wanted silly money, some couldn't get Visas and at least one PL rider was refused by his Promoter who is on Management Committee according to various comments made on here by people on the know. Plus they replaced Gilkes and Bowtell and Atkins didn't they?? Morley, Complin and McGurk then Coles. Edited September 16, 2022 by HGould Last para added 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherborne Green Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 5 hours ago, mikebaker said: Scunthorpe should of been given Plymouths Play Off place. At least their Promotion sought replacements for injured riders, Kinsley, Palin and.Kennedy. Gladiators Promotion made no attempt to find a replacement for Kennett. Or a couple of changes to use up the available points. Absolute silly statement. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, Sherborne Green said: Absolute silly statement. Absolutely when at the start of the season Plymouth had a very good team ruined by injuries, replaced lower end riders but middle/top end as proven by others hard to get sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 6 hours ago, mikebaker said: Scunthorpe should of been given Plymouths Play Off place. At least their Promotion sought replacements for injured riders, Kinsley, Palin and.Kennedy. Gladiators Promotion made no attempt to find a replacement for Kennett. Or a couple of changes to use up the available points. There is no rule that requires teams to make a replacement. The guest rule at times encourages teams not to find new riders! Don't blame Plymouth for following the rules. Blame the rules. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: There is no rule that requires teams to make a replacement. The guest rule at times encourages teams not to find new riders! Don't blame Plymouth for following the rules. Blame the rules. Sure it will be changed during the winter! Edited September 16, 2022 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: There is no rule that requires teams to make a replacement. The guest rule at times encourages teams not to find new riders! Don't blame Plymouth for following the rules. Blame the rules. 2 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Sure it will be changed during the winter! I doubt it tbh. But will be interesting to see if the guest rules are updated. Last year Poole had a long wait for their play-off QF as Leicester & Scunthorpe had rain offs & were not in a rush, so waited a week to re-arrange their fixtures. This year the exact same thing has happened to Glasgow / Leicester. The BSPL had the opportunity to try and avoid these fixture issues, but did nothing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: There is no rule that requires teams to make a replacement. The guest rule at times encourages teams not to find new riders! Don't blame Plymouth for following the rules. Blame the rules. I agree, I was amazed there wasn't already a rule to prevent this but then again the speedway rule book has always been a bit of a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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