szkocjasid Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Triple.H. said: As Eastbourne wirhdrew from the league then any rider who rode against or for them should have his average adjustef accordingly, otherwise Eastbourne should still appear in the league table. You cannot expunge the team record without also expunging any points from riders who rode either for or against them from them. Yes you can, it's very easy! Remove Eastbourne from the league table, but don't remove the scores. Done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 6 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Yes you can, it's very easy! Remove Eastbourne from the league table, but don't remove the scores. Done! I know that but if the fixtures didn't take place then the points earned shouldn't count towards averages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Triple.H. said: I know that but if the fixtures didn't take place then the points earned shouldn't count towards averages So… just pretend Eastbourne were never here then, do the opposition riders have to give their pay back for the meetings against Eastbourne as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Triple.H. said: I know that but if the fixtures didn't take place then the points earned shouldn't count towards averages I get your point, but the points scored counted towards the averages till the season ended! So how can the matches count for averages then but not now? I know it's simpler to remove the matches after the season ends, but technically if they don't count should have been removed immediately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I get your point, but the points scored counted towards the averages till the season ended! So how can the matches count for averages then but not now? I know it's simpler to remove the matches after the season ends, but technically if they don't count should have been removed immediately! The team pts and team averages are expunged from last season for a reason. , for example Eastbourne rode 11 league meetings last season before there demise it could have been 8 home meetings and 3 away , which would then give the home riders a disjointed average and most averages will have gone up and it would possibly leave them without a team spot for 22 season If no league points have been awarded for any fixtures then it is right no Eastbourne matches can have averages assigned to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Tosh1218 said: The team pts and team averages are expunged from last season for a reason. , for example Eastbourne rode 11 league meetings last season before there demise it could have been 8 home meetings and 3 away , which would then give the home riders a disjointed average and most averages will have gone up and it would possibly leave them without a team spot for 22 season If no league points have been awarded for any fixtures then it is right no Eastbourne matches can have averages assigned to them While that makes sense, for Kennett the reverse could have happened, he was lucky to find a team spot I feel! Also what if the Craig Cook / track staff incident has happened this year? Could Cook ask to get the fine he paid back as the match "didn't happen"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 Henry Atkins has signed as a full asset for Plymouth. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 On 11/19/2021 at 12:30 PM, Tosh1218 said: The team pts and team averages are expunged from last season for a reason. , for example Eastbourne rode 11 league meetings last season before there demise it could have been 8 home meetings and 3 away , which would then give the home riders a disjointed average and most averages will have gone up and it would possibly leave them without a team spot for 22 season If no league points have been awarded for any fixtures then it is right no Eastbourne matches can have averages assigned to them When Rye House folded halfway through the 2018 season, rider averages were not adjusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 54 minutes ago, tocha said: When Rye House folded halfway through the 2018 season, rider averages were not adjusted. Maybe it benefits Scunthorpe so it's better to adjust averages? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, tocha said: When Rye House folded halfway through the 2018 season, rider averages were not adjusted. Yes they were - at the end of the season - which is why Bomber Harris was not in the Poole 2019 side. cos his average went too high!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 49 minutes ago, JCookie said: Maybe it benefits Scunthorpe so it's better to adjust averages? Why does it Benefit Scunthorpe Stop acting like a child 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) Signing announcement after 9am Monday Will it clarify the Lawson rumour I wonder Edited November 21, 2021 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: Yes they were - at the end of the season - which is why Bomber Harris was not in the Poole 2019 side. cos his average went too high!! You are right. At the time I read somewhere, it may have been in the Star, that the averages were to remain unchanged as the process would have been too complicated to unravel. They must have had a change of heart subsequently as a final set of averages was produced 22nd November 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 49 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Signing announcement after 9am Monday Will it clarify the Lawson rumour I wonder 9am Monday? Cos no one will be at work then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: 9am Monday? Cos no one will be at work then? Aren't most of us Speedway fans retired and watching Lorraine at that time? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, HGould said: Aren't most of us Speedway fans retired and watching Lorraine at that time? Speak for yourself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, HGould said: Aren't most of us Speedway fans retired and watching Lorraine at that time? Bit early for most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 59 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Signing announcement after 9am Monday Will it clarify the Lawson rumour I wonder Prob not! Though if the Lawson thing is BS then I think they need to come out and say so imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 24 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Speak for yourself! you will be more Homes under the Hammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, HGould said: Aren't most of us Speedway fans retired and watching Lorraine at that time? Nah, she don't do it for me anymore! Even Vorderman is on the turn! Edited November 21, 2021 by PirateShip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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