steve roberts Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Halifaxtiger said: To me, that is very important and can't be overstated.. You can usually tell the difference between a speedway presenter or announcer who actually loves the sport and someone who is merely hired to do the job. Dave Lanning, perhaps, is the best example of that. Never been replaced in my opinion. Certainly livened up proceedings at Cowley during his time there in 1972. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 I think they do an excellent job, easily the best by some distance. For people that criticise them, try and talk continuously for 3 hours about what's going on in front of you that isn't always the most entertaining, in fact put an audition tape together and upload it to YouTube and give us all a laugh. It's a difficult balance to strike of being informative and entertaining. If I did have a criticism it would be that they don't often go into enough detail, but then maybe they are told to keep it quite superficial, I don't know. The days of Richie Benaud saying 1 sentence once every over in cricket or Dan Mascal saying "Oh I say" at the end of a rally in Tennis are of the distant past. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 Tatum and Louis were an excellent combination. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 28 minutes ago, Grand Central said: Tatum and Louis were an excellent combination. I do think it'd help if they would mix it up a bit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 I think they do a great job, maybe go too far with the 'banter' at times but nobody is perfect. Compared to the dross on Sky/BT football commentary they are miles ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Grand Central said: Tatum and Louis were an excellent combination. But…. did they highlight the fact that every heat is vital? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 One worrying thing for me, on the eurosport coverage, was the shoehorning in of Sam "straightaway" Ermolenko. Terrible commentator. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Badge said: One worrying thing for me, on the eurosport coverage, was the shoehorning in of Sam "straightaway" Ermolenko. Terrible commentator. Definitely the worst by a mile. He just talks absolute nonsense. I think Chris Louis is excellent and should be used regularly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 This has been a holding year with Eurosport as it looks like British speedway along with the GPs will be shown under the Discovery+ identity. And maybe with different commentators for both the UK product and the worldwide feed? Although Kelvin does a solid job, Nigel has come across as disinterested and error strewn this year, almost like someone who knows his time is up. It’s a shame, really, because they used to make a good team but that just hasn’t happened this year. I’m not sure who could or would replace him - hopefully not another ex-rider - but I think both Nigel and speedway would benefit from a parting of the ways…..in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman72 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 Lighten up lads they make a superb duo knowledgable, random, funny and friendly banter all rolled into one. More, more, more !!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Pieman72 said: Lighten up lads they make a superb duo knowledgable, random, funny and friendly banter all rolled into one. More, more, more !!! I don’t think anyone is having a go at the duo…….just one half 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Badge said: One worrying thing for me, on the eurosport coverage, was the shoehorning in of Sam "straightaway" Ermolenko. Terrible commentator. If Sam is involved in the commentary for the GPs next year, I'll be watching the Polish coverage online.... I appreciate Sam as an ex rider, and he used to have some good input in the studio back in the Sky GP coverage days but he is, without doubt, THE WORST commentator I have ever heard for speedway on National TV...Eurosport's commentary team for their coverage of the SEC and U21 this year has been horrible. The first round of the SEC this year had a technical issue which saw no commentary provided....That was sooo much better than the following rounds and the U21 rounds where they got it sorted and I had to listen to their dreadful comms team. Please, Discovery, give me NIgel and Kelvin next year and not the horror that is Dave and Sam.... Edited October 9, 2021 by HenryW 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 7 hours ago, HenryW said: If Sam is involved in the commentary for the GPs next year, I'll be watching the Polish coverage online.... I appreciate Sam as an ex rider, and he used to have some good input in the studio back in the Sky GP coverage days but he is, without doubt, THE WORST commentator I have ever heard for speedway on National TV...Eurosport's commentary team for their coverage of the SEC and U21 this year has been horrible. The first round of the SEC this year had a technical issue which saw no commentary provided....That was sooo much better than the following rounds and the U21 rounds where they got it sorted and I had to listen to their dreadful comms team. Please, Discovery, give me NIgel and Kelvin next year and not the horror that is Dave and Sam.... If you don't enjoy listening to Sam Ermolenko commentate, you don't enjoy life 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 Ermo is the Stanley Unwin of speedway pundits His answers never match the questions asked 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGT Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 Kelv says "speedway out of the top drawer" so often, I'm surprised he's not sponsored by IKEA! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 11 hours ago, OGT said: Kelv says "speedway out of the top drawer" so often, I'm surprised he's not sponsored by IKEA! And Specsavers for "you can't take your eyes of this one Nige"... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 No need for any banter tonight, for once the racing did all the talking for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokitren Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 2:54 AM, HenryW said: If Sam is involved in the commentary for the GPs next year, I'll be watching the Polish coverage online.... I appreciate Sam as an ex rider, and he used to have some good input in the studio back in the Sky GP coverage days but he is, without doubt, THE WORST commentator I have ever heard for speedway on National TV...Eurosport's commentary team for their coverage of the SEC and U21 this year has been horrible. The first round of the SEC this year had a technical issue which saw no commentary provided....That was sooo much better than the following rounds and the U21 rounds where they got it sorted and I had to listen to their dreadful comms team. Please, Discovery, give me NIgel and Kelvin next year and not the horror that is Dave and Sam.... Not everyone has developed the skills of a racer and a commentator at the same time. There are many commentators who know (or think they know) more about racing than the drivers themselves! And there are also many riders who do not know how to comment at all, but the importance of their word is not diminished by this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) They do a great job. At least they look at the camera. They are to speedway what James Hunt and Murray Walker were to F1. Edited October 12, 2021 by graeme 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) I appreciate Tatum as an ex-rider, he notices the technical things. Don't like Pearson, but as a Wolf, that is probably my Cradley/WBA bias coming in. The one, and only thing, I will compliment Pearson on is that he does give some explanatory words for viewers new to the sport and encourages them to visit their local tracks. Edited October 12, 2021 by Beowulf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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