foreverblue Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Ain't most passing in Speedway down to rider error?? A quicker rider behind always makes the rider in front pull defensive moves. This has to be the most nonsense post on here. The racing was terrific. Belle Vue v Peterborough I hope is the final for the next 30yrs until others get better tracks in all honesty Just thought the track could be better and the racing would be even better, I agree it was a great meeting. When I have been before after about heat 4 the grip moved to the outside to give more lines you could race on. The meeting against Wolves could have been better too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Although this seasons British League top tier is probably the most farcical ever in the history of our sport, I will still happily congratulate Peterborough on their success, they were the best of the six teams over the course of the season, not just at the end. The form of Ulrich prior to his injury was the main reason for that, to have a reserve progress to a number one thus meaning a heat leader standard rider would almost always be at reserve was a masterstroke as was the general team build that many had written off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted October 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Belle Vue winning twice at Peterborough had no effect whatsoever last night which was interesting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 51 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: Theres going to be a clutch of 6-7pt riders that may miss out if the limit isnt increased and with the rider availability in the Uk deminished cant see the limit staying as it is, if the aces stick with Bewley for example hes going to use a fair % of your limit and your team will need to be ripped apart along with all the other teams. Will they see sence and raise the limit so that those who want to ride in the Uk can still do so time will tell. You used Bewley in ht7 at home and ht9 away v Sheffield i think , moving the ht13 reserve to ht6 last night gave the Panthers further fuel to hit you hard during that period and a TM like Rob Lyon would of picked up on that for sure ,that period was 3 5-1s and a 4-2 & a 2-4 , the 3 5-1s won Panthers the match . Losing the 10pt lead monday also hurt you harder than you would of hoped , . If Glasgow want Ulrich back next season as i think hes still a Peterborough asset, then i would ask for Tom Brennan in exchange loans, hes been the most improved RS this season and the way he handled the pressure in the races he was under pressure was very impressive he will go far for a rider who cut his teeth on the small Eastbourne track he can ride both big and small tracks an art these days. Glasgow signed Tom on a full transfer so can’t see us loaning him out. Really depends on league structure and what league we are in if we are still championship then I guess Tom will decide who he rides for in the premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Aside from the superb racing - congrats to Peterborough and Bjarne in particular - what about the terrific numbers in attendance and atmosphere. This was commented on several times by riders and commentary team alike. I sincerely hope BSPL/Eurosport and any other media partners can use the 2 Final meetings to 'promote' our sport far and wide, as despite all the moaning and negativity on forums like this, there are still superbly entertaining speedway meetings at all levels and on decent tracks happening across the country every week! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Gazc said: Glasgow signed Tom on a full transfer so can’t see us loaning him out. Really depends on league structure and what league we are in if we are still championship then I guess Tom will decide who he rides for in the premiership. Yes he does much the same that Ulrich will decide were he rides , was just thinking of the possibilities of him riding elsewhere in the premiership, Cookie did his job last nignt he was unfortunate to have the bike issue in ht9 lucky to be in rerun but he finished 4th on his second bike anyway , just make sure Glasgow dont let the Pie rats win anything Ok Edited October 15, 2021 by scoobydoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 24 minutes ago, Flappy said: Belle Vue winning twice at Peterborough had no effect whatsoever last night which was interesting The final was always going to be two one off meetings nothing that had gone on previous was never going to have any relevance but some aces fans seemed to think that winning at the showground twice meant they would automatically win again which as it proved was far from the case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle77 Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Congratulation to The Panthers... certainly the better team over the two excellent legs... But if I was an Aces fan I'd be feeling mightily disappointed... Firstly by some strange decisions by your team manager... Rob Lyon sure showed Lemon how it should be done... But also... with Brennan and Etheridge beating the likes of Harris, Nicholls, Pedersen and Cook, I reckon it shows that Peterbro could have been there for the taking but the Worrall's and Charles Wright just weren't up to the task... and they let you down big time!!! Finally a word for MPT... to ride like that with his hand in the state it was... just amazing... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Fantastic attention to detail on the write up from the SGB website Skipper Scott Nicholls and Rising Star youngster Dan Bewley clinched the title with a 4-2 in Heat 14 after the Panthers had briefly been delayed by a stunning ride by Aces No.1 Dan Bewley to come from the back and win Heat 13. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 54 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Just thought the track could be better and the racing would be even better, I agree it was a great meeting. When I have been before after about heat 4 the grip moved to the outside to give more lines you could race on. The meeting against Wolves could have been better too. You also need the riders to make it a greater meeting than what it was .Dan Bewlay showed the Belle Vue guys how to do it but they didn’t have the talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, DJC said: Fantastic attention to detail on the write up from the SGB website Skipper Scott Nicholls and Rising Star youngster Dan Bewley clinched the title with a 4-2 in Heat 14 after the Panthers had briefly been delayed by a stunning ride by Aces No.1 Dan Bewley to come from the back and win Heat 13. That’s sums up SGB website. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 People saying the racing wasn't that good,,, no it was not as good as it can be/used to be,,, but was still far better than most tracks,, and would love racing to be that good every week at my teams track. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Class to see Bjarne Pedersen bow out with another EL title, watched him so much over the years and far from a gating tart. Class rider. well done Pboro and happy retirement Bjarne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: Fair points but I'm not sure we should look to Poland. When their leagues were pony back in the 60s & 70s they still had massive crowds. Their recent team structures etc. haven't attracted more fans but they do enjoy great backing from the state/councils and globalising has increased sponsorship income no doubt. Its just their fans never drifted away like in the UK and some of that is down to society and living standards. They have less teams as well don't they? They do have three divisions so I think more teams in total.. The local council involvement is key as you say, but that is only made possible by the sports' standing nationally.. When you watch the Polish League it truly is "tribal" (as a team sport should be), and can bring true national focus and attention to that town.. There is no chance for example that Woffy would guest for Zmarzlik as both the Wroclaw and Gorzow fans wouldnt stand for it.. If he did well Wroclaw would riot, if he did badly, Gorzow would... And their TV Companies and major money backing sponsors would run to the hills with their contracts and burn them.. As is shown at Play Off time every season, the sport in the UK still has plenty of "followers" who come out of the woodwork to follow "their team".. With a Speedway meeting actually meaning something being the pull.. Many drifted away over here when "Guestfest after Guestfest" became common place, with the top riders in particular starting to miss meetings in the UK to pursue an ever growing international fixture list, and meetings got rearranged to accommodate their agendas.. Polish fans stay with their sport because they dont have such a ridiculous operating model to push them away.. Someone just needs to harness some of that pull of the Play Offs into the regular season by making every meeting an event worth attending.. The support is clearly out there, lurking in the background And that's at every club... It's frustrating how every season we end on a terrific high after watching and being enthralled by an inevitably fantastic 2 legged final... And then within a few weeks of the new season starting six months later it becomes very much "same old, same old".. Such a shame it cant be ran better... 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 14 hours ago, stevehone said: it's a shame there are so many supporters that only turn up for playoffs when they're needed all season Bratley said the same in 2006: "I will never forget that the 2006 Grand Final, arguably the greatest modern day meeting ever, watched live by over 6000 people and by thousands more at home, was followed by a Craven Shield fixture attended by less than 700 people. If that Grand Final won’t pull people in, then what will?!?!" - so if they haven't worked it out in 15 years then don't hold your breath. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted October 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Crump99 said: Bratley said the same in 2006: "I will never forget that the 2006 Grand Final, arguably the greatest modern day meeting ever, watched live by over 6000 people and by thousands more at home, was followed by a Craven Shield fixture attended by less than 700 people. If that Grand Final won’t pull people in, then what will?!?!" - so if they haven't worked it out in 15 years then don't hold your breath. Think it's actually obvious. Better standard of speedway, lot's of passing, riders people can relate to, fair pricing and most importantly marketing and promoting. Look how the final was all over social media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisdonnelly Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Really enjoyed my first trip to Peterborough. It’s good to know it’s not only Bellevue who can’t get the catering right for big meetings Panthers fully deserved the win , clearly they wanted it more. Ht 3 summed it up for me when Nichols steamed into Charles Wright with no response. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, foreverblue said: Well done to the Panthers but what has happened to your track, has Buster destroyed it like he has Kings Lynn, if that was a normal meeting you would all be moaning about no passing and one line, it was only the incredible effort from the rider's and some rider errors that made the racing as good as it was which wouldn't have happened in a league meeting. You write some squit on here from time to time but that takes the biscuit, some of the racing last night was top drawer, the track was excellent if perhaps a tiny bit dry. Both meetings served up action worthy of a final. Edited October 15, 2021 by Bagpuss 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Can they PLEASE do away with these on board camera's who wants to see a front wheel instead of some passing that's going on elsewhere on the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Any idea of attendances at both legs..Boro looked full.? I liked the bike cams, good tv presentation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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