phillipsr Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Tosh1218 said: Correct if you can I’m asking about the following riders Lee Richardson ,Gary Stead,Lawrence Hare & Darcy Ward As has been said above this is disgraceful.... All of these riders have received terrible injuries and worse in the case of Richardson but again they absolutely did not ride speedway for the entrainment, The comment from Sings4Speedway is spot on 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted December 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Lewis said: For a team to be successful you need improvers but that doesn't mean all of them have to improve, so that is the only way I can justify to myself the signing of Lambo & from what the popular speak is Aarnio, those 2 will probably stay the same average or thereabouts, the improvement has to come from Palin, Zaine & Kingsley. Allen & Douglas could go either way, if they improve then the team will do well, if they don't then it won't be pretty. I almost entirely agree that you need improvers or riders to hold their own & in the probable team, we possibly have. Kinsley, although his points, or lack of them for Redcar, could be at his level but he hardly rode many meetings last season so track time very limited. He knows he has to improve his gear, having ridden at this level before, so get him on a track he likes then a possible small improvement is possible. Kennedy likes our track & has an almost even home & away split so another year in the Championship could see an improvement. 2nd strings are always hard to predict so with Lambert riding with a better heat leader, his average could stay the same or a slight drop. Again, heat 1 & 8 are his big ones at no2. Palin, after his first year, should improve mainly on the away tracks & is showing ambition by improving his gear as for sale, on his twitter page, he has both a PJR & Graversen for sale. So what & how is he improving? A more up to date tuned model or a different tuner? The next rider possible/probably signed should improve his away form significantly more that 2021. His confidence could have taken a hit with that bad crash in the GP Qualifier but he can show a bit of back bone & turn his cheek to a few comments on here & show a bit of Territorial Army in him, then he will do ok. The last 2 Xmas presents have shown that they can score decently away so riding on a home track that they have mastered, should see improvements So, all in all, not too bad, not too negative, but 2 things we do know is that Xmas is soon upon us & we will be entertained at the EWR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Lewis said: For a team to be successful you need improvers but that doesn't mean all of them have to improve, so that is the only way I can justify to myself the signing of Lambo & from what the popular speak is Aarnio, those 2 will probably stay the same average or thereabouts, the improvement has to come from Palin, Zaine & Kinsley. Allen & Douglas could go either way, if they improve then the team will do well, if they don't then it won't be pretty. It also depends who is available, for example a 5.5 rider who you expect to rise to 6.5 may be a better choice than Lambert, but a 3.00 man who could get up to 3.75 isn't! No point in people being negative about Lambert unless than can point out better options available! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldtimerRay Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 23 hours ago, BassoontheGasso said: Tero next signing announced Thursday followed by the double announcement of Allen/Douglas I take it? Having got to an age where I am not bothered anymore going to away matches, I think Aarnio will be a decent signing as he rides the Scunny track well even if his away form is a little suspect, after all we kept Auty for home matches as his away form was generally piss poor. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, OldtimerRay said: Having got to an age where I am not bothered anymore going to away matches, I think Aarnio will be a decent signing as he rides the Scunny track well even if his away form is a little suspect, after all we kept Auty for home matches as his away form was generally piss poor. Couldn't agree more. Home wins are key to keeping attendances up and keeping the fans happy. Tero averages double figures at Home so it's a no brainer to sign him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScunnyDan Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 other than me and @Paul Johnson do any other scunny fans go to away meetings or do us two just have sad enough lives to want to go to #### tracks like lesta etc 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, ScunnyDan said: other than me and @Paul Johnson do any other scunny fans go to away meetings or do us two just have sad enough lives to want to go to #### tracks like lesta etc Last couple of years done Birmingham,Leicester,Redcar ,Newcastle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, ScunnyDan said: other than me and @Paul Johnson do any other scunny fans go to away meetings or do us two just have sad enough lives to want to go to #### tracks like lesta etc No it's mainly you mate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy666 Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, ScunnyDan said: other than me and @Paul Johnson do any other scunny fans go to away meetings or do us two just have sad enough lives to want to go to #### tracks like lesta etc Prev been to kings Lynn Redcar and Sheffield but def doing more this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 hours ago, OldtimerRay said: Having got to an age where I am not bothered anymore going to away matches, I think Aarnio will be a decent signing as he rides the Scunny track well even if his away form is a little suspect, after all we kept Auty for home matches as his away form was generally piss poor. 3 hours ago, BassoontheGasso said: Couldn't agree more. Home wins are key to keeping attendances up and keeping the fans happy. Tero averages double figures at Home so it's a no brainer to sign him. Plus win all your home matches & you'll probably be in the play-offs! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldtimerRay Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, ScunnyDan said: other than me and @Paul Johnson do any other scunny fans go to away meetings or do us two just have sad enough lives to want to go to #### tracks like lesta etc Done my shift on away tracks in the 70’s/80’s, can’t be arsed with all the travelling now, besides why would I want to when Scunny just down the road serves up such good racing. Forgot to say Dan, yes you have a sad life lol. Edited December 10, 2021 by OldtimerRay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 have to say Scunny is one of the few away tracks i would go to , even went when they raced Worky a few years back was chucking it down and Kildemand was almost untouchable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy666 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, homer said: have to say Scunny is one of the few away tracks i would go to , even went when they raced Worky a few years back was chucking it down and Kildemand was almost untouchable When we travelled up to Redcar we found it very FTG. the only prob was that we never gated. If I remember rightly David Howe got carted off to hospital and Ryan Douglas who had landed that day from oz couldn’t do more than 3 laps without nodding off oops I mean falling off. Met some really nice people at the bar though. …….bloody hell time flies just looked it up and it was 2013 and was bloody cold Edited December 11, 2021 by mossy666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted December 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, ScunnyDan said: other than me and @Paul Johnson do any other scunny fans go to away meetings or do us two just have sad enough lives to want to go to #### tracks like lesta etc Over the years & early Scorpion years, I have done Boston(Kings Lynn), Mildenhall, Buxton, Rye House, Stoke, Birmingham, Sheffield, Somerset, Redcar, Newcastle, Leicester, Workington, Peterborough(Fours) & taken in top league meetings at Belle Vue( K/Lane & NSS) & Wolves. Edited December 11, 2021 by IronScorpion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 So no TJ at Redcar… could him, Douglas and Allen fit?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scunny1 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, phillipsr said: So no TJ at Redcar… could him, Douglas and Allen fit?? I would be happy with those 3, if we can squeeze them in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan555 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, scunny1 said: I would be happy with those 3, if we can squeeze them in? Sadly not if my calculations are correct 0.16 over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scunny1 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) That's not so good then. Edited December 11, 2021 by scunny1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) Redcar naming their 1-7 including Kasper Andersen who I had hoped might be on our radar ?. He really has the potential to add to points to his average in my opinion. Wright- Riss-Kerr-Andersen is as good a top four as any. Leaves me wondering where Thomas Jorgensen will head for if hes not back with us ? A return to Berwick possibly ? Wondering if a returning Josh Auty might make a return to one of his former tracks Birmingham ? But back to us. Thursdays 5th rider is going to tell us much about our aspirations in 2022. We need a rider that not only scores well at home but also away. Consistency is key; Tero Aarnio seems to be rumoured for a return ? If so its hard to see how last season won him a recall ?. A stuttering start when he always seemed to be 2-3 poor scores from the axe. Then the fiasco over him not having a visa that ended his 2021. Dont get me wrong I'm not wholly anti Aarnio but just looking at how things went last season for him it would need to go a lot better this time around if he was to be given such a crucial part in the 2022 team ? I would be hoping for a new face who has potential to improve; Aarnio might have his pluses round Scunny but I dont think theres much room for improvement from him overall. Of course we do not know for sure who we have at the top of the team ? It seems its two from three of Jake Allen - Ryan Douglas or British Champion Adam Ellis. I think we are stronger with Ryan & Jake not least at Scunny where both would out score Adam Ellis who didnt always look entirely at home there last season. As it stands I am pleased with how things are shaping up. In Zaine Kennedy and Jordan Palin we have two riders very capable of upping their averages in 2022. Simon Lambert back as skipper was to be expected and Ryan Kinsley if can pick up on where he was going in his last spell at Scunny can be a handy reserve. I am just left hoping the Management have been able to make the right calls with the top three riders ?. Edited December 11, 2021 by the outsider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Ryan555 said: Sadly not if my calculations are correct 0.16 over 0.16 of a point .keeps us from including Tommy ? Bloody ridiculous whats 0.16 of a point really ? Surely the sport is about entertainment and excitment and in all fairness I would much prefer to watch Tommy Gun flying round Scunny than (and no disrespect) Tero Aarnio. This is where Speedway starts to look silly. 0.16 of a point I ask you ?arrrgh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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