IronScorpion Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 There are quite a few posts on the 2020 thread since Friday with posters posting their views on their team for 2022 so here is a new thread for you all. A few whispers heard, Jake Allen signed as an asset. A more interesting point though & even though I have asked many times in the past, there has still been NOTHING in print to how the 5 year Rising Star Plan is to work for the 2nd year & beyond. If Allen is a Scorpion in 2022 then how would that affect Ellis as, even though he is a no1 in most peoples eyes, his average is slightly less than Allen's. Would he be on similar terms or have to take a drop to Heat Leader status? (unsure how points money is paid but would have thought, high to low, no1 ... heat leaders ... 2nd strings ... reserves/Rising Stars(2 for 2022?) Ellis (but Douglas is preferred option) Allen Jorgensen/Pickering Lambert/Nicol/Kennedy Mountain Palin Gilkes A team based on riders that can ride the EWR but, also, ride the tighter technical tracks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan555 Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, IronScorpion said: There are quite a few posts on the 2020 thread since Friday with posters posting their views on their team for 2022 so here is a new thread for you all. A few whispers heard, Jake Allen signed as an asset. A more interesting point though & even though I have asked many times in the past, there has still been NOTHING in print to how the 5 year Rising Star Plan is to work for the 2nd year & beyond. If Allen is a Scorpion in 2022 then how would that affect Ellis as, even though he is a no1 in most peoples eyes, his average is slightly less than Allen's. Would he be on similar terms or have to take a drop to Heat Leader status? (unsure how points money is paid but would have thought, high to low, no1 ... heat leaders ... 2nd strings ... reserves/Rising Stars(2 for 2022?) Ellis (but Douglas is preferred option) Allen Jorgensen/Pickering Lambert/Nicol/Kennedy Mountain Palin Gilkes A team based on riders that can ride the EWR but, also, ride the tighter technical tracks Must say Pickering rides the EWR very well though don’t really know the situation with him at Edinburgh, I personally would prefer Nicol or Kennedy because they can ride a lot of different tracks well that includes the EWR however think Simon is nearly nailed on Edited October 5, 2021 by Ryan555 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 If Gilkes and Palin are both allowed as rising stars in the same team it will be criminal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted October 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 47 minutes ago, Ryan555 said: Must say Pickering rides the EWR very well though don’t really know the situation with him at Edinburgh, I personally would prefer Nicol or Kennedy because they can ride a lot of different tracks well that includes the EWR however think Simon is nearly nailed on I mentioned Pickering as he has scored well in his 2 visits & Edinburgh have 3 heat leaders combined total of 25. Leicester have 4 x 8 point riders & Poole have 3 x 8 pointers although Schlein is retiring this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted October 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 20 minutes ago, Diamonds85 said: If Gilkes and Palin are both allowed as rising stars in the same team it will be criminal... On another thread, I think jaizer has mentioned a Rising Star total of 7 for 2 riders then any combination could be used (5 & 2, 4 & 3, ? & 1) & I would not think both would move up that much from being 1* riders(still only 1 years experience in top leagues of racing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan555 Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: On another thread, I think jaizer has mentioned a Rising Star total of 7 for 2 riders then any combination could be used (5 & 2, 4 & 3, ? & 1) & I would not think both would move up that much from being 1* riders(still only 1 years experience in top leagues of racing). Yeah we will just have to wait and see when is the AGM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Allen Mountain Ellis Kasper Andersen Douglas Palin Gilkes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 minute ago, phillipsr said: Allen Mountain Ellis Kasper Andersen Douglas Palin Gilkes That's a fantastic team if only It would fit into next years averages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 I personally think its shocking how Scunthorpe have announced all this about Allen whilst he is still competing in the play offs for Redcar. Just sums up what a terrible chairman Godfrey really is. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 9 hours ago, Pinny said: I personally think its shocking how Scunthorpe have announced all this about Allen whilst he is still competing in the play offs for Redcar. Just sums up what a terrible chairman Godfrey really is. I think you can safely say that Redcar's interest in the Play-Offs are over, after Sunday ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Lion Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 I highly doubt Ryan Douglas will be back at Scunthorpe after comments made in the past about how he was treated by Godfrey when he rode for Scunthorpe. But he is also Poland bound for 2022 so I suggest he will drop Championship racing to concentrate on Premiership (Sheffield ) & Poland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 Anyone know what's happening with josh auty ,a good servant to scunthorpe has he retired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumper Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Lenny Lion said: I highly doubt Ryan Douglas will be back at Scunthorpe after comments made in the past about how he was treated by Godfrey when he rode for Scunthorpe. But he is also Poland bound for 2022 so I suggest he will drop Championship racing to concentrate on Premiership (Sheffield ) & Poland Hi Lenny do you have any info regarding these "comments" there seems to be a lot of rumours and discontent directed to Rob Godfrey (some of which may very well be true and justified) but very rarely seem to have any evidence to back such claims up. Thanks Edited October 6, 2021 by stumper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSL84 Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Lenny Lion said: I highly doubt Ryan Douglas will be back at Scunthorpe after comments made in the past about how he was treated by Godfrey when he rode for Scunthorpe. But he is also Poland bound for 2022 so I suggest he will drop Championship racing to concentrate on Premiership (Sheffield ) & Poland No way will dougy be at Sheffield that's a fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted October 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 14 hours ago, phillipsr said: Allen Mountain Ellis Kasper Andersen Douglas Palin Gilkes 14 hours ago, phillwhitewasmad said: That's a fantastic team if only It would fit into next years averages A fantastic team, I agree, & probably fits in at around 34.6 with a few changes to averages as some riders rode in league meetings after 23rd September (Leicester, Glasgow, Kent & Birmingham). It does NOT include KOC or Play Off meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan555 Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 hours ago, lewy said: Anyone know what's happening with josh auty ,a good servant to scunthorpe has he retired? I have seen him a few times in the pits at Scunny so I’m not sure will just have to see wouldn’t surprise me if he all of a sudden gets announced for next year because I was aware he had so personal issues that he has now sorted 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie21 Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 23 hours ago, phillipsr said: Allen Mountain Ellis Kasper Andersen Douglas Palin Gilkes Its easy, 5 from last season drop Theo and Tero replace with Josh Auty and Jake Allen. Sorted as long as the figures fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 Can’t see Dougy been back at the EWR but in Tero and Theo’s absence I’m hoping minimum change to be fair , Ellis will be on a cracking average so if possible let’s sign him up . Rumours circulating that TJ is Redcar bound is possible now that Jake has become a Scunny asset as Iron Scorpion has stated what happens to the rising stars ?? I will go on been 2 young guns in each side so hear goes Adam Ellis ,Jordan Palin,Dan Gilkes Connor Mountain ,Jake Allen ,Simon Lambert Stevie Worrall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, archie21 said: Its easy, 5 from last season drop Theo and Tero replace with Josh Auty and Jake Allen. Sorted as long as the figures fit. Big no to Auty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted October 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 On 10/6/2021 at 8:42 PM, archie21 said: Its easy, 5 from last season drop Theo and Tero replace with Josh Auty and Jake Allen. Sorted as long as the figures fit. That is normally what Rob does, not many changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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