IainB Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, HenryW said: No,it was 16 rider format that year with all points counting but double points in the final. Nicki had 2 24 point maxes and 2 wins with 23. He really was on a different level that year. Ah... double points for the final, what would the gap have been without double points? I'll have a look tomorrow Edited October 1, 2022 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: I was struggling because all the ones with * had equal records of 1st 2nd etc etc- I thought that a race exclusion bettered a tape exclusion - so that put Doyle ahead of the other 2 who had a tape exclusion, so i then went to who finished higher when they met. It seems i knew what i was doing I didn't have immediate access to all the countback details, but I had the current standings open. It didn't take me much thought to figure out that Janowski making the final gave him third. He was 11 points behind Lambert, and the final guaranteed him 14. Really not as difficult as some would have you believe... I guess it doesn't matter what points system you use - if you can't count... Edited October 1, 2022 by chunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 10 hours ago, Grachan said: For me it's an integral part of their job. Yeah, I wanted to know without having to work it out myself, mind you the crowd reaction said it all and I did have the points tally up on my phone so had sort of worked it out. Surely Tatum and Louis ought to have been mentioning positions etc ..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 My first visit to Torun - what a fine theatre of speed & methanol it is! Only downside was Lambert. After 8 heats he & Vaculik looked the two most likely contenders. Then for no apparent reason in a heat which has 3 riders in it who have showed no form or speed in their first two rides he touches the tapes. A third in that heat would have got him into the semi. After that Lambert was under pressure: chasing other riders & necessary setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Col said: My first visit to Torun - what a fine theatre of speed & methanol it is! Only downside was Lambert. After 8 heats he & Vaculik looked the two most likely contenders. Then for no apparent reason in a heat which has 3 riders in it who have showed no form or speed in their first two rides he touches the tapes. A third in that heat would have got him into the semi. After that Lambert was under pressure: chasing other riders & necessary setup. Lambert has time on his side always gives 100% as well ,like the rest his real problem is Bart yet again rode with his head last night and I am sure he could have gone up another gear if he needed to . Edited October 2, 2022 by FAST GATER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 10 hours ago, HenryW said: No,it was 16 rider format that year with all points counting but double points in the final. Nicki had 2 24 point maxes and 2 wins with 23. He really was on a different level that year. Difficult to work out with different points systems and 2007 having 11 GP's compared to this seasons 10 but going on actual race points averages per meeting, it reads as follows: 1st NP 16.27 3rd JC 11 1st BZ 12.2 3rd MJ 8.9 Shows, like you said, what a dominant season NP had in 2007! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidncohen Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 12 hours ago, Bavarian said: This artificial points system is really a mess. I don't like it at all. No one has a clue now durign the meeting re. the overall world championship points standings. They could do with showing a 'virtual leader' board at any time during racing, like they do in other sports such as MotoGP, then you would have a better idea of the standings at any time, and a rider would know what they have to do in order to challenge for a better place in the standings 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 12 hours ago, Hackett said: Brilliant effort by Vaculik tonight - Should guarantee a wild card spot for 23 !! Yep, he's going for the record number of wildcards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 1 hour ago, FAST GATER said: Lambert has time on his side always gives 100% as well ,like the rest his real problem is Bart yet again rode with his head last night and I am sure he could have gone up another gear if he needed to . Agree with you on Bart,has it totally sussed out now,just picks up the points needed without taking too many chances.Hard to see will constantly challenge him in the next couple of seasons.Artem Leguta and Emil if allowed back in might make it a bit harder though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 Regarding Woffinden getting a wild card, with 2 Brits already qualified I’d say the odds are against it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 Doesn't Woffy slurp the 'right' drink when being interviewed to ensure a wild card? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baiden Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Star Lady said: Regarding Woffinden getting a wild card, with 2 Brits already qualified I’d say the odds are against it. I’ll bet you he gets one. What odds are you offering? Edited October 2, 2022 by baiden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW436 Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 33 minutes ago, Star Lady said: Regarding Woffinden getting a wild card, with 2 Brits already qualified I’d say the odds are against it. He has done a lot of talking the last few weeks about making changes to his team and other things etc, when somebody starts talking like that it normally means they are trying to convince sombody i.e the organisers of his spot in series. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 43 minutes ago, Star Lady said: Regarding Woffinden getting a wild card, with 2 Brits already qualified I’d say the odds are against it. Too well in the right people,will probably get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, JoeW436 said: He has done a lot of talking the last few weeks about making changes to his team and other things etc, when somebody starts talking like that it normally means they are trying to convince sombody i.e the organisers of his spot in series. Definately talked as though was already in the GP next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW436 Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Definately talked as though was already in the GP next year. A year out would probably give him the kick up the arse he needs, a criticism of the series Id have is that riders for too long have been able to dine out on past years performances rather than how they have performed that year, or their energy drink sponsor affiliation... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, JoeW436 said: A year out would probably give him the kick up the arse he needs, a criticism of the series Id have is that riders for too long have been able to dine out on past years performances rather than how they have performed that year, or their energy drink sponsor affiliation... Agree,they are still top riders but living on reputation.It’s a closed shop IMO for some.There has to be a different Qualification system if you are not in the Top6.If Woffy ,Doyle and others make it through fair play to them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 If riders want to guarantee they get the best chance for a Wildcard, they should do the WC Qualifiers, no excuse really, it would also significantly nullify the chances of a no hoper making it through to the GP via the challege. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 A year out the GP's might give Woffinden a wake up but who knows, certainly won't happen he's too much of a "draw". Shame Janowski finished top 6, he is well on his way to taking the title of best rider to never win a world title from Leigh Adams It's a shame he's more interested in increasing his teenage girl social media following than being a world title contender. After a year out Sayfutdinov & Laguta may not be the riders they were. I'd heard a rumour Sayfutdinov was thinking about retiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW436 Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 A year out the GP series racing at tracks out in the wilderness to gain a place in the GP series would certainly focus the mind and answer a few questions for those questioning whether they really want it anymore. No rider should just be allowed to coast along when its supposed to be best of the best 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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