chunky Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Grachan said: There is a lot of talk time between races on this Eurosport coverage. Plenty of time to go through that sort of thing. Shouldn't even need that. The commentators SHOULD have access to tablets (or something similar) which are updated as you go. We have technology, so use it... Edited October 1, 2022 by chunky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 I presume that ranking Bewley 6th and Dudek 7th has saved us 6 pages of outrage about the lack of a run-off. Had it been the other way round I can't imagine many on here being happy with the outcome. (And I confess this was a rule change that passed me by, and as I was watching an hour after the event I was avoiding all the helpful posts on here that would have clarified matters for me. The failure of the commentators to give any meaningful information about the climax was pretty poor) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, arnieg said: I presume that ranking Bewley 6th and Dudek 7th has saved us 6 pages of outrage about the lack of a run-off. Had it been the other way round I can't imagine many on here being happy with the outcome. (And I confess this was a rule change that passed me by, and as I was watching an hour after the event I was avoiding all the helpful posts on here that would have clarified matters for me. The failure of the commentators to give any meaningful information about the climax was pretty poor) If it was the other way around it wouldn't have mattered as that would have meant both Bewley and Dudek would have qualified for next years Gp series.This way only Bewley does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, arnieg said: I presume that ranking Bewley 6th and Dudek 7th has saved us 6 pages of outrage about the lack of a run-off. Had it been the other way round I can't imagine many on here being happy with the outcome. Thing is, countback is used in many sports these days, and particularly over a full season of events, it's pretty easy to do - and fair. It's not like the old days where you could blame one E/F or tapes exclusion - when you have a MINIMUM of fifty rides a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 Does Woffy deserve a Wild Card.IMO no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Does Woffy deserve a Wild Card.IMO no. I think he is still one of the top 15 riders in the world!! Currently Britains number 3 without to much doubt though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Does Woffy deserve a Wild Card.IMO no. Is he one of the World's Top 15 riders? If so, then I would say "yes"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: 9th 8 points Woryna 10th 7 points Doyle ** 11th 6 points Lambert ** 12th 5 points Woffinden ** 13th 4 points Miskowiak 14th 3 points J Holder 15th 2 points Dudek 16th 1 point Lewandowski ** Provisional 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: I make it Lambert 103 , Dudek 102 Janowski i think has to get Bronze medal 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: It difficult to work out because of the exclusions- could be a run off for 6th Bewley and Dudek ?? "Provisional", "I think"... sounds like even you were struggling tonight. This stupid scoring system has been shown up for what it is last night and tonight with nobody knowing what the final results for the season were until the captions came up at the end of the night. Made watching it a bit of a waste of time imo Edited October 1, 2022 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) How Janowski is world number 3 is beyond me... are they sure they've got that right? He's gone missing for most of the season! 60 points off the leader, is that the biggest gap ever for a world number 3? Woffy wild card for next season? Not for me for his own good, but he's nailed on to get one Edited October 1, 2022 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 26 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Does Woffy deserve a Wild Card.IMO no. It's a no from me ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 minute ago, iainb said: "Provisional", "I think"... sounds like even you were struggling tonight. This stupid scoring system had been shown up for what it is last night and tonight with nobody knowing what the final results for the season were until the captions came up at the end of the night. Made watching it a bit of a waste of time imo I was struggling because all the ones with * had equal records of 1st 2nd etc etc- I thought that a race exclusion bettered a tape exclusion - so that put Doyle ahead of the other 2 who had a tape exclusion, so i then went to who finished higher when they met. It seems i knew what i was doing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, racers and royals said: I was struggling because all the ones with * had equal records of 1st 2nd etc etc- I thought that a race exclusion bettered a tape exclusion - so that put Doyle ahead of the other 2 who had a tape exclusion, so i then went to who finished higher when they met. It seems i knew what i was doing Sorry... you've lost me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 minute ago, iainb said: How Janowski is world number 3 is beyond me... are they sure they've got that right? He's gone missing for most of the season! Woffy wild card for next season? Not for me for his own good, but he's nailed on to get one Janowski is a very talented rider and a class act on the bike,but this season has been a bit of nightmare for him for some reason.At least when interviewed a couple of weeks ago he didn’t give the usual bullsh#t about machinery and set-ups he blamed himself.Good Guy IMO.Thought a couple of years ago he could be World Champ but not so sure now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Janowski is a very talented rider and a class act on the bike,but this season has been a bit of nightmare for him for some reason.At least when interviewed a couple of weeks ago he didn’t give the usual bullsh#t about machinery and set-ups he blamed himself.Good Guy IMO.Thought a couple of years ago he could be World Champ but not so sure now. I agree with everything you say, like Woffy i think he's in a massive comfort zone. 60 points off the leader for a world number 3, that must be a record Edited October 1, 2022 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, iainb said: "Provisional", "I think"... sounds like even you were struggling tonight. This stupid scoring system has been shown up for what it is last night and tonight with nobody knowing what the final results for the season were until the captions came up at the end of the night. Made watching it a bit of a waste of time imo I don’t believe you were watching just to see a screen showing the final results. Foremost I was watching the racing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said: I don’t believe you were watching just to see a screen showing the final results. Foremost I was watching the racing. I was primarily watching to see who was going to finish 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th & 6th and had no idea who had finished 3rd to 6th until well after the final had finished... like many others That's the whole point of a GP series. May as well go back to a one off world final! Edited October 1, 2022 by iainb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, iainb said: I agree with everything you say, like Woffy i think he's in a massive comfort zone. 60 points of the leader for a world number 3, that must be a record When Nicki absolutely dominated in 2007, 3rd placed Jason Crump finished 72 points behind Nicki. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 I think the rule has already been posted but the current rule is 1. Run-off for 1st place. 2. For all other placings: Precedence will be given to the rider having the greatest amount of SGP 1st place results, followed by 2nd, 3rd, 4th and so on in the current season. If the tie still persists precedence will be given to the rider with the highest final classification at the last round of the current SGP season. so no run off is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, HenryW said: When Nicki absolutely dominated in 2007, 3rd placed Jason Crump finished 72 points behind Nicki. Crumpy wasn't too shabby was he? There's been 4 GP's in Poland for Magic this year. Janowski 2 podiums Crump 3 podiums And wasn't 2007 the KO system? Edited October 1, 2022 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, iainb said: And wasn't 2007 the KO system? No,it was 16 rider format that year with all points counting but double points in the final. Nicki had 2 24 point maxes and 2 wins with 23. He really was on a different level that year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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