Diamonds85 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Hello Can anybody tell me what the average are for the Rising Star riders, in both leagues? Can't seem to find them anywhere, just '2nd in team/5th in team' etc... Are they top secret? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Diamonds85 said: Hello Can anybody tell me what the average are for the Rising Star riders, in both leagues? Can't seem to find them anywhere, just '2nd in team/5th in team' etc... Are they top secret? Cheers Obviously a secret. Someone now getting knuckles rapped of saying what place they are in team. Too much information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Diamonds85 said: Hello Can anybody tell me what the average are for the Rising Star riders, in both leagues? Can't seem to find them anywhere, just '2nd in team/5th in team' etc... Are they top secret? Cheers Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 44 minutes ago, Endeavour said: Obviously a secret. Someone now getting knuckles rapped of saying what place they are in team. Too much information. The team position has to be known to allow the correct team line-up and facilities to be determined. Why the actual average is concealed is more difficult to understand as it’s easy to calculate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: The team position has to be known to allow the correct team line-up and facilities to be determined. Why the actual average is concealed is more difficult to understand as it’s easy to calculate. Is the main reason for not showing average because any rising star moving into top5 can only be replaced by a rising star or r/r if not available or injured.It’s all a bit of a farce as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan555 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Diamonds85 said: Hello Can anybody tell me what the average are for the Rising Star riders, in both leagues? Can't seem to find them anywhere, just '2nd in team/5th in team' etc... Are they top secret? Cheers http://www.gbspeedway.com/2021/riderlist.php?mc1=x&mc2=r&mc3=x&mc4=x&search=nameall&name= &league=B&oleague=B 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ryan555 said: http://www.gbspeedway.com/2021/riderlist.php?mc1=x&mc2=r&mc3=x&mc4=x&search=nameall&name= &league=B&oleague=B Wow that's a good little link I like that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan555 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Wow that's a good little link I like that... Yeah it’s basically the bible of speedway in the my opinion ! Edited September 30, 2021 by Ryan555 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted September 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, Ryan555 said: http://www.gbspeedway.com/2021/riderlist.php?mc1=x&mc2=r&mc3=x&mc4=x&search=nameall&name= &league=B&oleague=B Thanks for this link... Brilliant!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 That's an interesting site but needs to be read with caution. Taking Leon Flint as an example the site appears to show him as No 1 in Berwick averages, when according to the official BSPL GSAs he's second in the team averages. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheggie Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, NeilWatson said: That's an interesting site but needs to be read with caution. Taking Leon Flint as an example the site appears to show him as No 1 in Berwick averages, when according to the official BSPL GSAs he's second in the team averages.  Funnily enough, I am just looking at this exact same situation right now - very strange indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Speedway Star averages have Leon as our Number 1 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 40 minutes ago, Normski said: Speedway Star averages have Leon as our Number 1 Â Maybe, but the BSPL averages as posted are the official averages and the only ones that apply for team-building etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 51 minutes ago, Normski said: Speedway Star averages have Leon as our Number 1 Â Speedway Star averages are 2021 average only & include bonus points. It is also League & KOC points whereas CMA's are League only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 That link only taking Leon’s 18 2021 meetings, but rolling is 20 meetings, so would need last 2 from 2019 added on I believe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 15 hours ago, NeilWatson said: The team position has to be known to allow the correct team line-up and facilities to be determined. Why the actual average is concealed is more difficult to understand as it’s easy to calculate. Only concealed to supporters, I am now aware Mountain has a GSA of 3.00 in the Kings Lynn team. Quite why Rising Star GSA are concealed is beyond me, it seems to be one of the standard BSPL directives, let’s keep supporters in the dark.   2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, bigcatdiary said: Only concealed to supporters, I am now aware Mountain has a GSA of 3.00 in the Kings Lynn team. Quite why Rising Star GSA are concealed is beyond me, it seems to be one of the standard BSPL directives, let’s keep supporters in the dark.   Baffling, isn't it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, NeilWatson said: Baffling, isn't it They are worried that Supporters will start to understand the rules if they us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 As a theory maybe they are trying to hide the averages as hope to keep riders as rising stars for more than one season and if we knew flint and Palin's true averages we'd be apoplectic with rage if took up 3/4 points in team building for next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, Jaizer said: As a theory maybe they are trying to hide the averages as hope to keep riders as rising stars for more than one season and if we knew flint and Palin's true averages we'd be apoplectic with rage if took up 3/4 points in team building for next season? The minute Josh Bates was one of the Rising Stars it was a farce. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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