LisaColette Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 56 minutes ago, KeirStarmerFan said: If the Panthers pull this off, it will go down as one of the biggest upsets in speedway history. Has a team ever qualified for a play-off final without its top 2 riders? Poole would not have won any of their Elite League titles in the early 2010s if both Ward and Holder were unavailable for the play-offs. @Steve Shovlar would agree. Holder was injured during won of the playoffs when the final was Poole vs Brum (can't remember what year that was, maybe 2013?) We signed Greg Hancock in his place, I guess this is why we have the deadline now. Can't remember how far ahead of the deadline Greg was signed..? Biggest upsets? lol They are the favourites!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 Just now, foreverblue said: Cook, Jason Crump, I know he has been poor this season but surely better than Kerr or Richard Lawson as they should be allowed the 5 per cent extra for a home meeting. Lawson is injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Lawson is injured Yes I had forgotten that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, KeirStarmerFan said: If the Panthers pull this off, it will go down as one of the biggest upsets in speedway history. Has a team ever qualified for a play-off final without its top 2 riders? Poole would not have won any of their Elite League titles in the early 2010s if both Ward and Holder were unavailable for the play-offs. @Steve Shovlar would agree. Wolves rode the 2017 final without Freddie Lindgren and Jacob Thorsell, who I respectfully suggest are a better combined package than MPT & Ostergaard. We won away at Swindon and lost at home, losing overall by 1 point........................................... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 20 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Cook, Jason Crump, I know he has been poor this season but surely better than Kerr or Richard Lawson as they should be allowed the 5 per cent extra for a home meeting. Maybe Lawson is still injured. I would imagine Panthers fans are hoping for rain so they can more time to get MPT fit Crump scored one or something last month for Ipswich at the EoES. Basically Cook is the only 'better' option on paper than Kerr and for whatever reason one or both parties didn't fancy it. Losing MPT is a blow for P'boro but if the track is how they like it and not how it was against Sheffield they should get the job done but I'd never write Wolves off, they are a team full if decent British League riders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) If we pull this off tonight then the boys should be put on the next honours list. And Harris / Nicholls should be the top 2 candidates to win the Sports personality of the year. Wolves by 6 imo Edited October 4, 2021 by KingoftheTrack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 50 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Holder was injured during won of the playoffs when the final was Poole vs Brum (can't remember what year that was, maybe 2013?) We signed Greg Hancock in his place, I guess this is why we have the deadline now. Can't remember how far ahead of the deadline Greg was signed..? Biggest upsets? lol They are the favourites!! I think you’re getting confused! Holder was injured at Coventry on 5 July 2013 and didn’t race again that season. Hancock was brought in to help Poole make the play offs a month later - he made his debut at Poole on 5 August 2013, long before the cut off. Initially, he was only signed for a few meetings but he was persuaded to stay to the end of the season on the grounds that it was his best chance to win his only UK league championship. Which he managed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 44 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Crump scored one or something last month for Ipswich at the EoES. Basically Cook is the only 'better' option on paper than Kerr and for whatever reason one or both parties didn't fancy it. Losing MPT is a blow for P'boro but if the track is how they like it and not how it was against Sheffield they should get the job done but I'd never write Wolves off, they are a team full if decent British League riders. Losing MPT is a massive blow, they can overcome it if Bjarne rides well, there is some rain due today which probably won't help the home side as it didn't help Wolves last week, sounds like a last heat decider to me hopefully, should be good viewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: I think you’re getting confused! Holder was injured at Coventry on 5 July 2013 and didn’t race again that season. Hancock was brought in to help Poole make the play offs a month later - he made his debut at Poole on 5 August 2013, long before the cut off. Initially, he was only signed for a few meetings but he was persuaded to stay to the end of the season on the grounds that it was his best chance to win his only UK league championship. Which he managed Yes and what a crash that was, I went home fearing he would never race again , horrific being stood on the very bend he went in to. You know its bad when the whole stadium goes eerily quiet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) It was a devastating crash. Like Forever blue it happened directing in front of me. Poole needed a 5-1 in heat 15 to win with Darcy and Chris. Ward led but entering lap 2 Chris had gone on the outside of a Coventry rider and slipped in behind Darcy as they entered the first bend. But Chris clipped Darcys back wheel, straightened toward the fence and ploughed in. To make matters far worse, the bike hit the airfence which lifted and Chris at high speed went straight underneath it hitting the Armco. Badly broken bones and months out from which he never fully recovered his previous form to this day. Edited October 4, 2021 by Steve Shovlar 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 29 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: It was a devastating crash. Like Forever blue it happened directing in front of me. Poole needed a 5-1 in heat 15 to win with Darcy and Chris. Ward led but entering lap 2 Chris had gone on the outside of a Coventry rider and slipped in behind Darcy as they entered the first bend. But Chris clipped Darcys back wheel, straightened toward the fence and ploughed in. To make matters far worse, the bike hit the airfence which lifted and Chris at high speed went straight underneath it hitting the Armco. Badly broken bones and months out from which he never fully recovered his previous form to this day. That's very true unfortunately... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted October 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 hours ago, foreverblue said: In my opinion the main problem Peterborough have is Bjarne, who has been out of form of late and they need him to have a great night. He will try his best, he always has but if he is off form tonight Wolves will win. No idea why they can't get a better guest than Kerr , I would have thought a half fit MPT would be better than Kerr. You can only use Ipswich or King's Lynn riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 Bet365 has the Panthers at 5/6 and Wolves at 20/21. I'm shocked, I would have had Wolves as 1/3 favourites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 How is the weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted October 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 Just now, topaz325 said: How is the weather. Fine so far 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, KeirStarmerFan said: Bet365 has the Panthers at 5/6 and Wolves at 20/21. I'm shocked, I would have had Wolves as 1/3 favourites. Should be Panthers 9/4 and Wolves 1/3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 19 minutes ago, KeirStarmerFan said: Bet365 has the Panthers at 5/6 and Wolves at 20/21. I'm shocked, I would have had Wolves as 1/3 favourites. 6 minutes ago, KingoftheTrack said: Should be Panthers 9/4 and Wolves 1/3 Remarkably similiar views, opinions and posting styles. Almost as is there is a split personality......................................................... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Beowulf said: Remarkably similiar views, opinions and posting styles. Almost as is there is a split personality......................................................... I'm just in agreement with him because he's 100% right. I don't know where bet365 are getting their prices from tbh. Lewis Kerr at No.1, Out of form Pedersen at reserve for a free scoring Hans Andersen and R/R in operation is always dangerous vs. A fully fit Wolves side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 Douglas is like a number 1 around the Showground, Panthers are in big trouble here. Rain is the only saving grace we have. Do you agree @KingoftheTrack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandking072 Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, KingoftheTrack said: I'm just in agreement with him because he's 100% right. I don't know where bet365 are getting their prices from tbh. Lewis Kerr at No.1, Out of form Pedersen at reserve for a free scoring Hans Andersen and R/R in operation is always dangerous vs. A fully fit Wolves side. Buster Douglas was 42/1 when he beat Mike Tyson so you're hardly underdogs of the century are you,? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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